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Old 03-29-2015, 09:38 PM   #801
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Marter, consider this too:

In summary, the only way to make a bad decision here is to get paralysis by analysis and NOT buy one. Go with your gut!
We're going with a twin, and we're just about ready to buy. I hear you on the paralysis.
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Old 03-29-2015, 09:49 PM   #802
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BTW, Brian are you still in town or are you headed to Jackson? We're coming down to Amelia Island 4/5-4/10 for a birthday/retirement getaway.

We are at home in Santa Rosa Beach. We plan to be here until about the 20th of April when we will head over to Jacksonville for a few days before making our way to Jackson Center.

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Well, I've come to my senses and now realize where Santa Rosa Beach is in relation to Jacksonville.

I've followed your threads closely and thought it would be nice to meet you. I guess we'll wave as we fly over .
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Old 03-30-2015, 02:00 AM   #803
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When we ordered our 31' Classic, we had the option to get a convection/microwave in place of a plain microwave while keeping the propane gas oven. We had learned how to use the gas oven in the 25FB and use the microwave on occasion in the Classic for a quick thaw of a frozen item. The microwave usually serves as a bread storage area.

Our solar/battery system can power the microwave with no issues (2800 watt capability and 600 amp hours of storage battery) so off grid is not a real issue. We do carry a Honda 2000 to enable charging of the batteries via the Magnum inverter/converter if we have too many overcast days.

One needs to really look at the size of these two devices (propane oven or microwave type device in the same space) and realize there is really limited capacity inside. I would also bring on your favorite cooking container to see if it fits.

When we rewired our trailer outlets, we found that the outside power outlet was part of the circuit for the microwave. Thus one would not be able to run two high powered devices off the same circuit at the same time. That is something to check out with a circuit tester in the specific model while in the decision making process. Do not presume the sales folks at a dealership can answer this question.

Ask tons of questions and get answers. Talk is cheap, but writing your signature with the pen gets expensive. From our experience, a short term trade for a different model is a very expensive proposition. Thus our decision to change the initial order for a Classic 27FB to the 31' Classic because the cost differential was only the difference in list price versus the full depreciation hit later.
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Old 03-30-2015, 08:24 AM   #804
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Our cooking agenda is just the opposite. Old Lucy and Little Lucy (the 23FB) both were equipped with a microwave and a gas oven. In our case the gas oven provided excellent storage for our supply of Moose Tags while on the road.

New Lucy has only the convection/microwave oven. The only reason that we miss the gas oven is that we now don't have a really good place to store Moose Tags.

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Old 03-30-2015, 10:28 AM   #805
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FYI. Using the convection microwave yesterday while the AC was on tripped the circuit breaker. We Knew it would, but just weren't paying attention.
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:01 AM   #806
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Careful, we don't want any half baked moose tags, or a moose tags casserole, or chocolate chip moose tags out of old Lucy.

I store stuff in my gas oven too. I've decided to stick with a cook top and microwave in the 66 Trade Wind remodel project.

I'm sure the microwave versus gas oven debate will continue.

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Old 03-30-2015, 11:34 AM   #807
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FYI. Using the convection microwave yesterday while the AC was on tripped the circuit breaker. We Knew it would, but just weren't paying attention.
We have blown the circuit breaker on New Lucy also, but only when we have thrown the electric water heater into the mix.

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Old 03-30-2015, 12:39 PM   #808
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Alright I've got to ask... what the heck are Moose Tags?
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:59 PM   #809
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You put one on your moose's collar so you can tell your moose from all the others in the campground.

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Old 03-30-2015, 01:40 PM   #810
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You put one on your moose's collar so you can tell your moose from all the others in the campground.

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Exactly! I need to feature that as one of the suggested uses on the Website.

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Old 03-30-2015, 04:01 PM   #811
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Well, you certainly have all good advice from the experts here...we second the comments on FB Twin 25'. We have had 3 25's, last 2 have been Twins. We think about the 27' Twin also, but I agree; you get a little more closet storage and counter space in kitchen, but it's more than a "few thousand $$$" for that if your buying new. I missed the 15' air ducting, but I do have the extra outside storage which is great compared to earlier models we have owned. We have had microwave built in with gas oven on first 2006 Safari but bed and bath were too small. loved the layout; similar to a 28' with L-couch and dinette. Microwave or convection/Mic combo is matter of choice. Some of the 27' have both with the slide out on some models.
We are happy with gas for now...and new quick disconnect in front works well with our Q-Grill set up, so no extra propane needed. We also have portable 80W solar panels from GoPro and are very happy so far. F150 Echoboost pulls great and has extra storage for the 2 storage bens we use; easy loading. Bike rack in rear works well. Only couple things we would change...could we be heading for our "4th" 25'??

We REALLY like the new "gourmet kitchen" after market option upgrade with the 25' FB Twin, with "ducted air"! (why AS doesn't offer more options from factory like this??) Likely go that rout at some point with 2016' model (or later?)... dealer I spoke with started out with "it's only $5K more for ducted air and $15K more for Gourmet Kitchen option!" After I finally caught my breath, it was only $7K more for the kitchen....if you ordered now...I'm REALLY impressed with the kitchen utility and storage space it appears to bring...a bar, kitchen counter space, all the drawers. The factory standard lounge is a waste of space for us. We rarely use it and really, don't have 3 extra folks staying with us...have a tent if needed for more sleeping! (and it stores up front in outside storage, with 4 folding chairs, a table, and screened in room/tent!) love the AS!
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Old 03-30-2015, 04:25 PM   #812
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We have blown the circuit breaker on New Lucy also, but only when we have thrown the electric water heater into the mix.

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And then there is the early morning "no power" issue when plugging in the coffee pot on shore power...."oh no, what the heck is going on?? this is a new model; what happened to the power this morning?" event! After flipping circuit breakers, checking the GFI, verifying the inverter DOES work, reading the manuals trying to understand/trouble shoot the schematics, and, expressing several times: "it's got to be something simple; this is a 2014 model!" a few times...my wife says: "have you checked the power pole circuit?" (REALLY hard to admit I missed the obvious!) what would we do without our partners!
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Old 03-30-2015, 05:21 PM   #813
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In have had that issue also. When I have an electrical interruption, I check the easiest firest and continue on. My order is the GFCI in the bathroom, the breaker panel under the bed, and the campground breaker at the power pole.

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I've followed your threads closely and thought it would be nice to meet you. I guess we'll wave as we fly over . (Quote from Marter)


We usually come through Lincoln on our western trips. We always do a trip thread with daily posts and pictures. If you follow the thread, you will see us coming through Lincoln. Hopefully, you will be there when we come through. We would also like to meet.

Lucy's western trip this year will probably start around second week in July.

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Old 03-30-2015, 05:46 PM   #815
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my experience with trailer tires is that they don't lose much air over time. you can check them monthly is about all i would suggest. if one of them is far less in pressure, suspect the tire is not seated properly. visit you local tire emporium and get that fixed. i see a lose of about 3psi in some 5 months of winter non use on the AS as well as my boat trailer.
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Old 03-30-2015, 08:49 PM   #816
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We towed Old Lucy over 60,000 miles with Michelin 16" LT's. During that time, I checked the pressure fairly regularly, but I don't remember ever having to add any pressure.

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Old 03-31-2015, 01:17 AM   #817
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After getting our 25FB home and parked in the storage unit, I would check the OEM ST tires every week and some air would be lost. After switching to the 15" Michelins, the air pressure stayed constant.

I had the replacement 16" Michelins and SenDel wheels in the back of the truck when I picked up the 31' Classic. As soon as I got it parked in the storage unit, I swapped out the tires. No air pressure issues so far, but I check before every trip and before starting each travel day.

Due to our truck's air suspension having an air compressor, I put an air hose chuck by the license plate and can easily add air if needed with the air hose I carry in the bed of the truck.
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"...my wife says: "have you checked the power pole circuit?" (REALLY hard to admit I missed the obvious!) what would we do without our partners!"

Well, we make extensive checklists.....works at least for going through a process of determining the "root mean cause" but not so great for keeping warm at night...
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On Old Lucy I checked the pressure in the Michelin LT's for the first 15,000 miles or so, and never had to add any pressure. At that point, I started using a trucker's tire thumper and only checked tire pressure with a gauge when a tire didn't sound quite right or something looked off. In the remaining 45,000 miles of towing old Lucy, I checked pressure with a gauge about a half dozen times, and never found the pressure off target.

I also carry a Warn compressor in case I need to air up a tire. I have only used it to re-air the truck tires after purposely reducing pressure for off road travel.

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"...my wife says: "have you checked the power pole circuit?" (REALLY hard to admit I missed the obvious!) what would we do without our partners!"

Well, we make extensive checklists.....works at least for going through a process of determining the "root mean cause" but not so great for keeping warm at night...
Yea, wife has the check list....plug had fallen out of power pole...someone may have kicked it out on way to bathroom...but I should have known...learn to double check source first (and follow check list!)
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