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Old 02-10-2015, 02:17 PM   #541
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When we decided that we were going to trade Little Lucy (2012 23FB) and go back to a 25 footer, we wanted to get an in person look at the 25RB. We were already intimate with the 25FB, having had Old Lucy (2005 25FB) for eight years and 1,300 nights. We knew that we wanted the twin bed configuration to get the extra outside storage compartments.

As fate would have it, we were at a campground in Seattle, Washington last September, and met Jack and Lorie Saunders there who were picking up a brand new 2015 FC 25RB the next morning. We got to tour their brand new Airstream and got a good look at the 25RB floor plan. A few days later, we went by Sutton Airstream in Eugene, Oregon, and got to see a 2015 Flying Cloud 25FB in person and got a demonstration of the new ducted air conditioning. Based upon this, we decided we wanted a 2015. The only choice remaining was, did we want an FB or RB? We spent the next 2 weeks going back and forth. As the list price was almost identical, cost was not a consideration.

The first thing that we considered was the entry door. Having had an FB, we knew that commercial campground campsites were generally set up to accommodate RV's with entry doors near the front of the unit. Score one for the RB. We next considered the front dinette vs. the rear dinette. It had been our experience that, more often than not, if we had a view out the dinette window, it was at the rear of the trailer. Also the RB has the heavily tinted window protectors covering the RB's dinette view. Score one for the FB.

The debate continued for another week or more. The shower seemed more usable in the FB. The bathroom was larger with more counter space in the RB, but it didn't have the big mirror cabinet of the FB. The bathroom window in the RB is kind of neat. We also like the vertical cabinet in the RB's bathroom. There was also the built-in microwave in the RB. The final considering factor was the large outside storage compartment which on the RB is at the rear and more accessible that the one on the FB behind the LP tanks.

After due consideration and pondering all of the pros and cons, we decided to seek out an FB. The main issue that pushed us to the FB was the view from the dinette. On the many nights that we don't unhook from the tow vehicle, our view in an RB would consist of the LP tanks and the rather large profile of the back of our truck camper.

We did our shopping on-line. We decided that we wanted the Black ultra leather and the Convection Microwave option. We found this exact unit at two different dealers, Colonial in Lakewood, New Jersey and Dixie in DeFuniak Springs, Florida. We got a price from Colonial, and Dixie offered us the exact same deal. We went with Dixie as it is only thirty miles from home.

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Old 02-10-2015, 02:51 PM   #542
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We compared the 25RB and FB as well, side by side. The only advantage for some I hear is the rear view, but for us who often use Rv resorts as well as many, many other camping venues, that means we may be looking out the back at another camper on many occasions. The RB never has a bad view.

We also knew the bench seating would be uncomfortable during our 7 months traveling each in our Airstream, and recliners would be in our future plan. The RB model can be easily converted to two recliners with a side folding table, the FB model cannot because of the location of the furnace.

We chose the RB model and have been satisfied in every way. Others choose the FB model and are satisfied, so it's good to have a choice in this versatile 25' Airstream size.
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Old 02-10-2015, 03:32 PM   #543
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For a while we used a small microwave on the kitchen counter and stored it on the floor when traveling. It took up a lot of precious counter space. Then I saw how SuEllyn had built a small cabinet that went on the gaucho sofa and put their zapper in it. This was in original Lucy.

I found an unpainted furniture store that could get me a small, deep cabinet with one movable shelf that would fit the microwave and a printer. I ordered it, got it, finished it and installed it where one cushion had been. I put some stops (a strip of wood about 3/8" high) a the front of the shelves to keep the printer and zapper from dancing out while towing. I drilled holes in the back of the cabinet for wires. I left about 6" between the cabinet and wall and that's a good place to store magazines, instruction manuals and such. It works well and the top of the cabinet provides another flat space when you need it for kitchen work. We doubled out counter space this way. We can print weather reports, information on what is up the road and directions to campgrounds and where ever we are going. I value the printer as much as the zapper. If you use the gaucho for sleeping, then this won't work.

Thanks again to SuEllyn for the cabinet idea. Photo below.

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Old 02-10-2015, 03:56 PM   #544
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That looks great, Gene! If we decide to do another shelf set, we'll do it like yours. Old Lucy's built-in was a big deal to make.

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Old 02-10-2015, 04:06 PM   #545
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My 25FB came with a convection oven / microwave combo unit. It's not as "pretty" as the oven option but it does both functions. The 27FB had the oven and then in the slide out cabinet it had a "nice" microwave. I haven't used it yet but two birds + one stone = good.
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Old 02-10-2015, 06:38 PM   #546
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New Lucy is finally an "official" Airstream. I mounted her big red numbers today.

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Old 02-11-2015, 09:26 AM   #547
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New Lucy is now sporting a complete set of McGard solid steel lug nuts, Part Number 64010. I decided to do this after I buggered up one of Lucy's OEM lug nuts when mounting her new 16" wheels. It's a shame that Airstream continues to use these junky lug nuts on such a premium trailer. I'm sure that doing this increases their profit margin by at least three or four dollars.

The McGards are made in the USA and guaranteed not to chip or rust.

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Hey there Brian,
We are the Mt. Shasta couple you met in Covington, we were picking up our New Airstream the next day. You have made me so curious about the Jackson Center in Ohio. We may have to get there some day!
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Hey there Brian,
We are the Mt. Shasta couple you met in Covington, we were picking up our New Airstream the next day. You have made me so curious about the Jackson Center in Ohio. We may have to get there some day!

Hi Lorie. We remember you and Jack well. Your's was the first 25RB that we had seen in person. Thank you again for the tour.

If you get to that part of the country, you should be sure to visit Jackson Center. The Airstream Factory tour alone is worth the stop. They have full hook-up campsites right on the factory grounds. If you need any repairs or maintenance done, the folks at the Factory Service Center are the best Airstream mechanics in the world.

Also if you are in that vicinity, be sure to see the RV Museum in Elkhart, Indiana.

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Old 02-11-2015, 06:18 PM   #550
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New Lucy is now the proud owner of of a really neat set of LED lights that we have installed right below her awning. These lights are programmable and create some very neat effects. These lights are a very nice upgrade for $25. They are a lot of bang for the buck.

Here are a few pictures. The pictures really do not do it justice.

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Brian - that looks AWESOME! Details please on product and installation process!
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Very nice looking. That's going to yield some great photo's for the monthly contest.
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Brian - that looks AWESOME! Details please on product and installation process!

I bought the light strip on Amazon. Here's the product description:

SUPERNIGHT 5m DC 12V RGBWW RGB+Warm White Flexible LED Strip Lights 5050 SMD 300LED Waterproof RGB Cool White LED Tape Light Kit With 40 Keys Controller And Power Adapter.

The cost was $29.99 on Amazon Prime with free two day shipping.

The light strip is 5.4 meters long which is exactly the width of the awning on a 25' Airstream. The strip is very flat and has a glue tape back. We installed it directly under under Lucy's rolled up awning in about 30 minutes. The effect is very impressive. The lights have numerous options for many lighting effects.

I guess we will see if the glue holds. Lucy will be headed to Jacksonville tomorrow along I-10 for 300 miles. I'll report from Jacksonville. I am anxious to see the effect with the awning deployed. I don't have enough room to deploy it at the house.

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What's the power source for the party lights? Very cool.
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What's the power source for the party lights? Very cool.
They are plugged into the AC outlet on the side of Lucy with a short extension cord. See the layout in the photo. Just enlarge it for a better look. It's quick work to remove the cords to get Lucy underway.

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Oh. Yep! Haha. Open eyes first, then post.
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Tired of broken Zip Dee claws. Here's the answer. I fellow I know machined these oversize pins (mounted) to replace the stock (standing) ones. Now there is no way for the claw to climb up on the large diameter inner part of the pin and break. I had broken 2 claws over the years when the claw climbed the pin. This tended to happen when trying to secureClick image for larger version

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Tired of broken Zip Dee claws. Here's the answer. I fellow I know machined these oversize pins (mounted) to replace the stock (standing) ones. Now there is no way for the claw to climb up on the large diameter inner part of the pin and break. I had broken 2 claws over the years when the claw climbed the pin. This tended to happen when trying to secureAttachment 232261 the awning in a stiff wind.


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Those are really neat, Jay. You could make a bunch and sell them on the Classifieds.

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Another question, is there an electrical outlet on or near the night stand in the twin bed configuration?

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Picked up our 2015 25' FC rear twin 3 days ago. There is an electrical outlet on the right wall next to the night stand and another electrical outlet that has inverter power below the TV on the left as you walk to the rear. I have a CPAP machine and that was one of my concerns. Not sure if your ? was answered previously. Hope to take our new TT out this weekend for a trial run.
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Picked up our 2015 25' FC rear twin 3 days ago. There is an electrical outlet on the right wall next to the night stand and another electrical outlet that has inverter power below the TV on the left as you walk to the rear. I have a CPAP machine and that was one of my concerns. Not sure if your ? was answered previously. Hope to take our new TT out this weekend for a trial run.
Congratulations on your new baby. We would love to see pictures.

Our 2015 FC 25FB Twin has the same electrical layout in the bedroom. We have added six outlet strip plug on the curb side under the mattress. two a/c outlets is not nearly enough for all of our electrical needs in the bedroom.

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