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01-06-2015, 01:55 PM
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#441
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2 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Atlantic Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 59
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Lucky Day
Brian, Glad to hear no damage!
We made it to and returned from IL. with new truck and have named it Beast.
Now waiting for the dealer to tell me when to come get the Airstream. Waiting for bike rack
It's name will be Feather.
I'm now shopping for trailer insurance, any hints.
Thanks,
Fred
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01-06-2015, 02:10 PM
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#442
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,156
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Hi Fred. Of course, we need to see a picture of Beast.
As to insurance, I shop it every couple of years. I have always gotten the best rate from Allstate with my vehicle insurance.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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01-07-2015, 07:38 AM
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#443
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2 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Atlantic Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 59
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The Beast
Brian, Introducing the Beast!
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01-07-2015, 08:22 AM
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#444
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,156
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That is one cool guy, a Denali no less. May you have many great Airstream adventures with Beast.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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01-10-2015, 02:06 PM
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#445
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,702
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I have insurance that I got through Good Sam—they referred me to GMAC, but now the company has a name like National General. Start with Good Sam and work your way through the name stuff. They allow me to cancel part of the coverage when we are not using the trailer—like collision and liability. It saves me a lot of money. When I forget to change it in the fall and call them months later, they backdate it and send me a check. They also had replacement coverage.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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01-11-2015, 06:29 PM
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#446
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,156
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New Lucy is all packed-up and ready to hook-up. We spent all day today getting her loaded for the trip. Lucy is headed to Jacksonville for about two weeks. The weather has gotten better. It is only going down to 58 tonight. We have not bothered to defrost the refrigerator. Even after being on steadily since October, there is not enough frost to make defrosting worthwhile.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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01-12-2015, 05:23 AM
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#447
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,291
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It's neat your fridge isn't all frosted up even in the Florida humidity. Our new Dometic is frosted up after 3 weeks of use. Maybe the new Airstreams have better fridges now.
David
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01-12-2015, 06:51 AM
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#448
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,156
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New Lucy's refrigerator does seem to do better in the area of frost accumulation in the freezer. It's a noticeable improvement over Old Lucy (2005 25FB).
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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01-12-2015, 10:01 PM
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#449
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,156
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Lucy made the 300+ mile trek from Santa Rosa Beach to Jacksonville. It rained off and on pretty much the whole way. The trip took a little longer than usual as it was slow going with the weather. Lucy is still performing well with no leaks detected. Lucy is tucked in at her home away from home in Jacksonville.
We have now towed New Lucy a little over 3,000 miles. Her road performance has been excellent. Almost all of the towing thus far has been done with Olivia, our 2005 3/4 ton Suburban. As this 3,000 miles have been in Florida, there have been no serious grades to contend with.
Brian
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2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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01-13-2015, 07:21 AM
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#450
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2 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Atlantic Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 59
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Sunny
Brian,
Welcome to sunny Jacksonville.
Are you passing through or staying with family for a while?
Regards,
Fred
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01-13-2015, 07:51 AM
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#451
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fpbender
Brian,
Welcome to sunny Jacksonville.
Are you passing through or staying with family for a while?
Regards,
Fred
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Hi Fred,
Kind of both. We will be camped here until Thursday visiting family. Then we will go down to Orlando for a conference until the 21st. We will regrettably have to leave Lucy here as our work at the conference requires that we stay in the hotel. We will come back to Jacksonville and spend a few more days before heading back to Santa Rosa Beach.
Brian
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2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
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2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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01-14-2015, 09:08 AM
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#452
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1 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Sacramento
, California
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 17
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Good Morning Brian.......I am still researching and evaluating this AS life style.......what is your AS trailer's gross weight (loaded)? I'm attempting to determine if a Toyota Tundra Truck would be the type of vehicle I would select to haul my future AS. I am seriously considering a Flying Cloud 27"......
Thank you for your time.
Henry
Sacramento, CA
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01-14-2015, 09:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Here's a discussion about Tundra by people who tow with them.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...cle-46700.html
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2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
2016 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4X4 Ecodiesel 3.92 axles
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01-14-2015, 09:36 AM
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#454
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1 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Sacramento
, California
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 17
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Thank you sir.
Henry
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01-14-2015, 09:47 AM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HASANCHEZ
Good Morning Brian.......I am still researching and evaluating this AS life style.......what is your AS trailer's gross weight (loaded)? I'm attempting to determine if a Toyota Tundra Truck would be the type of vehicle I would select to haul my future AS. I am seriously considering a Flying Cloud 27"......
Thank you for your time.
Henry
Sacramento, CA
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I haven't weighed New Lucy yet, but Old Lucy, our 2005 Safari 25FB, weighed 7,400# ready to camp. I an guessing that New Lucy will go about the same. A fully loaded 27FB would weigh only slightly more.
As to your question about the Tundra, it would probably do just fine, depending on you expectations. We have towed extensively with two different 3/4 ton Suburbans, an '04 and an '05. They both did very well with the Airstreams, but did labor on significant grades. It was a little slow and the upgrades, and sometimes concerning on the downgrades.
In 2011, we added a 3500 Duramax to our fleet. We went to the Duramax to carry our Outfitter pop-up truck camper while pulling the Airstream. Even with the 3,200# truck camper in the bed of the truck, the Duramax's performance is simply outstanding in all aspects. Extreme road grades (both up and down) are of absolutely no concern to the Duramax. It has spoiled us. It is true that the Diesel costs more to buy, more to run, and more to maintain. As we tow as much as we do, this is a luxury that we are willing to pay for.
All of this perception is not my imagination. We still have the 2005 Suburban 2500 that we use to tow the Airstream in the winter season. The gas Suburban still does well in Florida, but the Duramax excels in all areas of towing. It's like night and day by comparison.
Brian
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2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
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01-14-2015, 10:11 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
2011 23' FB Flying Cloud
Branson
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 734
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Brian, I'm a bit confused when you say you had a bit of problem with the 3/4 'Burb on the downgrades. I've got a 2013 3/4 and use the trailering power assist all the time, and have no difficulty. Have to hit the assist button twice to disable the downhill braking, but that does the trick. Could you elaborate?
I see where you had an 04 and 05 and maybe you didn't have that feature in those years.
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01-14-2015, 11:05 AM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by murreywalker
Brian, I'm a bit confused when you say you had a bit of problem with the 3/4 'Burb on the downgrades. I've got a 2013 3/4 and use the trailering power assist all the time, and have no difficulty. Have to hit the assist button twice to disable the downhill braking, but that does the trick. Could you elaborate?
I see where you had an 04 and 05 and maybe you didn't have that feature in those years.
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Hi Murrey. I have had three 3/4 ton Suburbans, an '01, an '04, and the '05 that I still have. None of these have the trailering power assist feature that you are describing. It must be a feature of more recent years as I am not familiar with it.
My down hill experience with the Suburbans is that if the grade is steep enough and long enough, I have gotten into that "runaway train" feeling where even shifting to a lower gear is not quite enough to make me feel comfortable.
Also keep in mind that my Suburbans were all four speed transmissions. I'm sure the newer six speeds do a better job.
Brian
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2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
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01-14-2015, 12:20 PM
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#458
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Rivet Master
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
2011 23' FB Flying Cloud
Branson
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 734
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Brian, the newer Suburbans have the Trailering aAssist Feature built in to the shift lever, on the end in the form of a push button. Push it once and the feature is activated, push it twice and the downhill braking system is DEactivated. Pretty straight forward.
From your description of the steep uphill grades (which I haven't had this rig to Colorado, yet) is bothersome. I would think the earlier versions of the 3/4 would be more powerful.
We go down into Arkansas and the Boston Mountains all the time with no uphill difficulty, but the Bostons are little brothers to the Rockies, to say the least.
Time will tell.
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01-14-2015, 02:45 PM
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#459
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2 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Atlantic Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 59
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Brian,
Another Thank You for your input.
Suzanne, Bailey and I are going to pick up Feather next Friday the 23rd. Guess what, already sold the original tires and wheels using your $600 price no problem and will be picked up at the dealer.
I'm already a happy camper and haven't even been on the road.
Thank You,
Fred
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01-14-2015, 04:25 PM
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#460
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fpbender
Brian,
Another Thank You for your input.
Suzanne, Bailey and I are going to pick up Feather next Friday the 23rd. Guess what, already sold the original tires and wheels using your $600 price no problem and will be picked up at the dealer.
I'm already a happy camper and haven't even been on the road.
Thank You,
Fred
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Hi Fred. I'm glad that things are working out for you. We would love to see some pictures of Feather when you get her.
Brian
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2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
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