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01-22-2015, 12:41 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2023 27' Globetrotter
2022 28' International
2015 27' FB International
Des Allemands
, Louisiana
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 39
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This is very frustrating. Our 27 FB Serenity is on order and due for delivery the first of April. It is really upsetting to read about these poor QC matters.
I would not be willing to give Airstream a pass on sloppy workmanship. I can understand the dealer correcting some minor defects but this is Airstreams fault and if they are going to charge this kind of money for their product, they need to stand behind it 100%.
The least expensive Airstream model costs more than many cars. The upper end costs more than most any vehicle. Would we tolerate this from automobile manufacturers??? Absolutely not.....
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.......I would start squeaking loud and clear to the Company, not the dealer.
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01-22-2015, 12:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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It is very frustrating I know, but please trust me when I say Jackson Center will take care of you. I've been in your shoes. Now I have a trailer with all the bugs worked out snd enjoy it even more.
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01-22-2015, 01:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,423
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
It is very frustrating I know, but please trust me when I say Jackson Center will take care of you. I've been in your shoes. Now I have a trailer with all the bugs worked out snd enjoy it even more.
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They should have taken care of it when they built it.There is no excuse for sloppy workmanship from a mfg like Airstream.No inspection process in place after final assembly?
In the above instance they should send a truck to pickup this mans trailer and deliver it back to him fixed with a apology gift.
This makes "Made in America" look bad in this day and age.Very sad.
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01-22-2015, 02:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Maybe the factory expansion will help. As it is now, it is cluttered and congested. There are too many workers inside a trailer at once.
I agree it should be perfect. The sooner you get to Jackson Center the sooner it will be as close to perfect as is humanly possible. For some reason the service center takes great pride in their work. I wish production had that same pride. The service center has to correct everything production should have gotten right to begin with.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
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01-22-2015, 02:09 PM
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1987 Avion 34W owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Good Ol'
, USA
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
Maybe the factory expansion will help. As it is now, it is cluttered and congested. There are too many workers inside a trailer at once.
I agree it should be perfect. The sooner you get to Jackson Center the sooner it will be as close to perfect as is humanly possible. For some reason the service center takes great pride in their work. I wish production had that same pride. The service center has to correct everything production should have gotten right to begin with.
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Sounds like a perpetual way of generating service business to me. Quality problems don't slow down the new sales, and they can generate service business down the road.
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1987 Avion 34W
1995 Ford F250 7.3L PowerStroke
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01-22-2015, 02:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,423
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The bad part is the customer sent Airstream the information upon delivery listing the problems with their new purchase and no one even bothered to respond????
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01-22-2015, 02:12 PM
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1987 Avion 34W owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Good Ol'
, USA
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moflash
They should have taken care of it when they built it.There is no excuse for sloppy workmanship from a mfg like Airstream.No inspection process in place after final assembly?
In the above instance they should send a truck to pickup this mans trailer and deliver it back to him fixed with a apology gift.
This makes "Made in America" look bad in this day and age.Very sad.
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We think exactly alike!
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01-22-2015, 02:18 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,423
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They did not even follow up when the customer contacted them listing the concerns problems upon delivery of their new Airstream. What does that tell you?
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01-22-2015, 03:30 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1975 31' Sovereign
West Liberty
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 93
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I highly recommend JC. They do excellent work. My AS is a 1975 and I have to pay for my work,but I know it is done right. You can camp free on site. It is about a 4 hour drive for me each way but it is worth it.
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01-22-2015, 03:35 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden; it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor."
Horace
It also improves your Airstream experience....
After 11 years I can't believe how much the quality of our Classic has improved...well, actually I can, 'cuz I did most of it.
Bob
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01-22-2015, 03:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,423
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Lol.. Robert I am improving the quality of my Airstream also,one piece at a time.By the time I pass on it should be dialed in.
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01-22-2015, 03:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden; it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor."
Horace
It also improves your Airstream experience....
After 11 years I can't believe how much the quality of our Classic has improved...well, actually I can, 'cuz I did most of it.
Bob
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HA,HA, me too. I am now at a point where I have to dream up stuff to do to the AS to feed my tinkering addiction.
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01-22-2015, 04:04 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
HA,HA, me too. I am now at a point where I have to dream up stuff to do to the AS to feed my tinkering addiction.
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Play oneupsmanship against Pahaska?
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01-22-2015, 04:04 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
N/A
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 989
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
For some reason the service center takes great pride in their work. I wish production had that same pride.
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I was going to say "why don't they move the service center folks to the production line?" and then I saw the follow up posts...
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01-22-2015, 04:23 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rostam
I was going to say "why don't they move the service center folks to the production line?" and then I saw the follow up posts...
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Sometimes they do bring production line folks to the service center. I saw back in 2001 when Airstream had a retrofit upgrade of the gaskets on the older slide out units. When one came in for the retrofit, they scheduled production line folks who were more familiar with the slide out unit to do the upgrades. I happened to be there when a slide out came in for the upgrade. The owner told me that they were pulling some folks from the production line to do the upgrade at the service center.
Jack
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01-22-2015, 05:04 PM
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#36
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulnGina
Sounds like a perpetual way of generating service business to me. Quality problems don't slow down the new sales, and they can generate service business down the road.
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But it is all warranty. They didn't charge me one red cent and they worked on my list of 60+ items for 3-1/2 days and I stayed in the Terraport 4 nights free!
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01-22-2015, 05:52 PM
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#37
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Some Airstreams are built with errors that humans make, some errors are fixed at the factory, some are not. Some new appliances are faulty. Some stuff is broken during delivery, and even more is broken by customers kicking tires and slamming doors the longer they sit on the dealers' lot. Some Airstreams corrode, leak and drain batteries on the lot, and some are dragged to RV shows where lookeeloos test them some more. Some dealers take care if these problems before delivery to a customer, some don't, we're learning who they are.
Some Airstreams are delivered perfectly built (to realistic standards) and purchased immediately when they arrive at the dealership.
We've bought one of each and they have both been great products. The second one we took back to the Factory Service Center for routine repairs and customer modifications, all done by excellent workmen who started with jobs on the production side.
We've got no problems with Airstream company, the dealership quality is spotty. Kind of like some car dealerships I have known.
My suggestion is to buy as fresh from the factory as possible, or order new. If not, be sure it's a good dealership. If not, go over the new trailer with a fine tooth comb, notebook in hand and get it repaired before writing the check and taking it home.
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2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
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01-22-2015, 05:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,423
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2015 30 ft International CCD poor quality control issues
Are you a paid Airstream blogger doug?
I have reviewed your posts and between Can Am and Airstream if they are not paying to blog they should be.Strange.........
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01-22-2015, 05:58 PM
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#39
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1987 Avion 34W owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Good Ol'
, USA
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,090
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Lol!
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01-22-2015, 06:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 31' Sovereign
Miami
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,137
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Getting kind of personal there, don't you think?
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