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Old 07-29-2011, 03:47 PM   #21
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I note that there have been a few posts related to a ToG Airforums User Group. Keep those comments coming...

There is a lot of misinformation about ToG going around. The official ToG website is...

Top of Georgia Airstream Park (http://topofgeorgia.net)

It's not great, but it's factually accurate in what it says.

You have to arrive with an Airstream to stay here. If you are not a WBCCI member you can stay one night (free?) as a courtesy and/or introductory offer type thing. I recommend that for folk who don't know if it's worth joining the WBCCI just to be able to stay here.

The rates are very low because the park is non-profit and operated by volunteers. Hosts are in charge for a week at a time: Tuesday-to-Tuesday. We thank them very much. So at $7 per night, you can save your $85/year WBCCI membership cost pretty quickly compared to comparable parks.

When the Georgia Unit is having a rally then each person staying in the park has to pay the rally fee. There are meals and expenses and that's the way it works. The website has rally dates and you could avoid or embrace the rallies, but be aware.

Ditto on Falluminum and Springstream.

Answers to some of the questions posted here:

Is it child-friendly? It's safe and there's a playground area of sorts. Paved roadways for kids to ride around on. Kids are welcome.

Is there shade? None of the sites are under trees, but the trees and mountains shade them until mid-morning and after mid-afternoon, depending on site selection. The park is at 1800 feet elevation and is 3 degrees cooler than Atlanta night and day. There are three covered pavilions with bench swings and a table or two and fans.

Is there fishing or wading or swimming? A nice creek runs through the park, Andrews Creek. Not enough for fishing, but the headwaters of the Chattahoochee River are nearby and that and other areas are fished. While you wouldn't wade or swim in the creek (you could) there is tubing on the Chattahoochee through nearby Helen all summer and lots of fun for $5.

And can we join WBCCI there? You can join the WBCCI here. The host can facilitate that. The cost is currently $85, some of which supports the Georgia Unit, some the WBCCI. You can stay a week for $85+$(7*7) or a month for $85+$180 or 6 months for $85+$(180*6). You do the math.

Do we need reservations? Reservations are not accepted, or needed. The best sites go first, on a first-come first-served basis. In practice, except during rallies, a site with a concrete pad for your trailer and a concrete pad under your awning is available always. When those are full, there are more without the concrete and the hookups are arranged for "rally parking" - i.e. two trailers can fit on one spot and both hooked up to all utilities - a worst case scenario that we don't really see even during rallies.

NOTE: I don't represent the park, I'm just posting on this forum. That's how the Top of Georgia Airforums User Group I am proposing would be. In a good way.
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Old 07-30-2011, 05:32 AM   #22
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We are at TOG now and will certainly be here through the end of August if not longer. Looking forward to seeing you.
that is great. Look forward to seeing you there. Not su exactly when we are headed up, but I will PM you when we are headed your way.
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I would ald live info on joining!
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Old 07-31-2011, 06:29 PM   #24
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The TOG user forum is an interesting idea, and I would probably at least subscribe. Now having said that, we are not WBCCI members and I do know the rules (would have to be a member). I have been a WBCCI and TOG "lurker" for a long time - trying to make sense of how/why I would join both, so like a lot of things sometimes you just need a tipping point...

I would think a forum like you describe could be an interesting mechanism to drive further interest in both - and would provide value.
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I searched around but I can't find information on membership application and cost. TOG appears to be providing real value to members. Can you link info or PM me?
Hi, I am membership director at TOP. I will be happy too answer any questions you have.
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:08 PM   #26
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Joined 7/31 and 1st post? ... and thank you for your membership!

I received a PM that mostly answered my questions and it included a phone number if I had more. With all due respect to the many members of WBCCI, we just haven't perceived WBCCI as something for our family. Although we like keeping our Airstreaming in a free spirit and absent of structure, TOG's campground is interesting, we'll try to find our way up to Helen and check y'all out. Thank you for the response.
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:31 PM   #27
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It seems like the answers should be posted on the ToG website. If not, then the User Group I'm proposing here at Airforums could be a repository of such answers. Just now we have questions asked and answered, via private message, and not posted anywhere.
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I understand. Drop by the TOP if you are in the area. You can spend one night as our guest. We would love to hve you.
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Could you please tell me if any of the sites are next to the creek? We have children who love to wade and play in the water. We are trying to decide about wbbci. It is a big expense (for us) and we are trying to decide whether to join or not. We are leaning toward joining. We have heard that some wbbci members are disgruntled about having younger families and children around. We read the newsletters in the wbbci site and they certainly did seem geared toward an older generation. We have seven wild, I mean seven quiet, I mean seven children and we are just unsure about whther we would be welcomed.
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Hi, I am membership director at TOP. I will be happy too answer any questions you have.
Welcome to the Forums! Your input will be of much help to anyone wondering about TOG - plus any other experiences you can share.

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Old 08-01-2011, 08:52 AM   #31
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Kids can be a pleasure or a nuisance at any campground/park. It's no different here. Since you have the good sense to care enough to consider it, yours are probably the former.

There are no age restrictions. This is not a 50+ community or anything like it. Some people don't like pets, some of those people will be here. Some people don't like kids, some of those people will be here. Pets and kids are welcomed, and by nearly everyone here.

The creek that runs the length of the park could be played in. Many sites back up to the creek and they tend to get filled. It's a natural setting not a landscaped one, not really setup for play.

The low cost tubing in Helen is great for families and kids. Unicoi State Park nearby has some swimming at the lake.

It's unfortunate that our park, which we figure costs $7/night, actually costs $50/night for a family like yours that has no other use for the WBCCI and just wants to come here for a couple of nights, when you add in membership.

Maybe we should offer 4 nights free with WBCCI signup or renewal to encourage it, if we feel so strongly about that.
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We are very interested in connecting with other Airstreamers. It is not that wbcci has nothing to offer us, we love the feeling of community here on the forums and also in the larger community. We do a lot of volunteering in our home lives and we try to focus on being good caretakers of the planet and of each other. We have always been airstream fans, and also campers. We finally have our first airstream after years of admiring them and camping in a 1969 popup camper. We like to be involved and we like to be helpful. We are intrigued by wbcci. We are just making surethat it is not really an organization of retirees who would really prefer younger families and children stay out! We want to be part of the group and feel we have something to offer, we just don't want to ruin it for others if there is a strong feeling across the board (and not just with a few) who wish the group were reserved for empty-nesters. We supervise our children and expect them to be respectful and responsible at all times, but they are definitely children and they ourptnumber us, so we are just trying to make sure we ourselves are respectful to others who might not welcome larger or younger families, based on a few comments here and there by people who are members who feel that children should not be present. I realize that is is not a tog question, but rather a wbcci question. Should I try to repost elsewhere? Are there other families who are very active wbcci members?
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Old 08-01-2011, 09:48 AM   #33
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For me, WBCCI membership is access to the Top of Georgia Airstream Park. If there's another benefit to WBCCI membership, I don't relate to it. YMMV.

The user group I started this thread to discuss is a Top of Georgia User Group. WBCCI membership is required, save the one free night previously mentioned. That's just how it is I guess. So it's $85/year. Whatever.

I think your family would enjoy the park, the area, and the people. I recommend it. You do the math on costs.

The monthly rate is $180, generally $6/day. Many people take advantage of that and leave their trailer here for a month or a season, visiting it a couple of weekends a month rather than hauling it around. Storage is $2/day, a way to save even more without hauling.

Maybe the presence of your family would cause those people who "would really prefer younger families and children stay out" to be here less. Hmm. Yes, you are welcome here! Seriously, don't get your hopes up about WBCCI membership, but the Top of Georgia Airstream Park is a good place for your family.
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:06 AM   #34
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One more note on WBCCI membership: The park is run and hosted by volunteers - mayhap the club/membership/loyalty/responsibility thing makes that work. So...join?
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I don't think you can wade in the creek! No fishing either. TOG is not for everyone. jim
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To clarify, Top of Georgia Airstream Park IS here for everyone, Airstreams only and WBCCI members only caveats as noted.

What was surely meant was that it may not be everyone's choice to stay here.

While I'm sure you can wade in the creek, you probably wouldn't. You surely can fish in it, but you won't catch anything I don't think.

There are other reasons why you might not choose ToG. There are no fire rings at the sites, or even wood fires in firebowls allowed. The highway is a little close and louder than you would like. You will not be pleased with your cellphone reception. There is no digital TV reception (12 channel analog cable free is all). The Internet system in the park (also free) is "limited" in that you can't be using it a lot (10-20M per site per day is all it can support).

And if cicadas bother you, you will be bothered, at least in the summer. I love the sound myself. Or if you hate to look up at night and see the Milky Way.

So, it's not for everybody in that sense.
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No fishing and the creek is really rocky, but a great place to go and relax. Makes a good basecamp even for Cherokee, nc,, etc. Traffic noise can be a problem during the day on the weekend because of the number of motorcycles. In the evening tog is fantastic. We love it and encourage everyone to give it a try. jim
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Could you please tell me if any of the sites are next to the creek? We have children who love to wade and play in the water. We are trying to decide about wbbci. It is a big expense (for us) and we are trying to decide whether to join or not. We are leaning toward joining. We have heard that some wbbci members are disgruntled about having younger families and children around. We read the newsletters in the wbbci site and they certainly did seem geared toward an older generation. We have seven wild, I mean seven quiet, I mean seven children and we are just unsure about whther we would be welcomed.
Hi Skatiero, I doubt if any of the sites next to the creek are open. A lot of people bring their campers up in April and leave the until November. They get the prime spots...next to the creek. You could call the host at the park and check. I will give you the #706 878 3590. The park is becoming a lot more kid friendly. We have gotten a lot of new members with children. Actually, our membership is becoming a little younger in general. Our July rally is all about children with all activities geared toward them. Let me know if you have other questions
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The best kept secret in airstream parks, We stayed there in 2009 winter just loved the park and the people and the town. In the area is so much to do and see with the many waterfalls and fed and state parks the best base camp for the money try it you will love it like we do .
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My daughter and I just attended a rally there this past weekend (she is 11). There was another couple there with twin girls (younger) and a third family came later with middle to young high school aged children.

We also brought our dog along. About half of the park is open to dogs, and the northern most is restricted for those who don't care for pets.

They do have a large fire pit near the main hall which can be reserved/used by campers except during rallys. ( At least that is my understanding of the rules).

When we left on Monday, there were several spots next to the creek which were open as well as many spots backing up to the mountain.

As to the original question in the first post, I think a TOG subgroup would be great and I would be a participant if it were formed.

The next rally at TOG is October 5-9. Until then, the park will have plenty of open spaces.

Someone asked in an earlier thread about open and closed dates for the park. TOG is open all year and there is always a ton of stuff to do in the area.
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