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Old 05-26-2008, 03:58 AM   #101
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If you want to redirect that truck to the east coast, I would not be upset.
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Old 05-26-2008, 02:16 PM   #102
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How do you plan to restore the lettering on the side? The ghost image is nice but having a sign painter replace it exactly would be a sight to behold. Enjoy and share your plans.
Great question!

The ghost image substantially clarifies that this is the trailer in the photos that PeeWee posted, among other details. Replicating years of oxidation and etching of the paint by the elements would be impossible - in my optinion. Comparing the images you can see that the ghost image letters line up exactly in every location to those of the 1955 images.

My intention is to document the trailer as well as I can before repainting. I would like to know the correct color of the letters. I assume they were black, but maybe red? I am also thinking that repainting then polishing is the way to go. Then touching up if necessary. Part of me wants to leave it and clear coat it. What would Wally do?
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:27 AM   #103
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Great question!

The ghost image substantially clarifies that this is the trailer in the photos that PeeWee posted, among other details. Replicating years of oxidation and etching of the paint by the elements would be impossible - in my optinion. Comparing the images you can see that the ghost image letters line up exactly in every location to those of the 1955 images.

My intention is to document the trailer as well as I can before repainting. I would like to know the correct color of the letters. I assume they were black, but maybe red? I am also thinking that repainting then polishing is the way to go. Then touching up if necessary. Part of me wants to leave it and clear coat it. What would Wally do?
Red should be the color. Here are three examples. Two are Wally's 1956 European Carvan Airstream, and the third my Mother's number two.
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Old 05-27-2008, 01:52 PM   #104
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I would think that if authenticity is what you want, then repairs to the inside and outside would be the way to go and perhaps not polish it or repaint the letters. Leave it as original as possible and just repair what needs repairing and preserve what can be left as is. I think it would be far more valuable that way. I know Pee Wee can provide lots of authentication and the providence to go with it, but I still think I'd leave as much as is or as was as possible.
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:05 PM   #105
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Red should be the color. Here are three examples. Two are Wally's 1956 European Carvan Airstream, and the third my Mother's number two.
PeeWee thanks again for your help. Red letters makes sense.

The Bubble should be here in Northern California this week. My in-laws managed the purchase for me in Texas where they live. They warned me to watch out for critters in the trailer. I said, like what: Oh rattle snakes, scorpions, hornets, maybe a rodent, or two. Hmm!
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:14 PM   #106
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I would think that if authenticity is what you want, then repairs to the inside and outside would be the way to go and perhaps not polish it or repaint the letters. Leave it as original as possible and just repair what needs repairing and preserve what can be left as is. I think it would be far more valuable that way. I know Pee Wee can provide lots of authentication and the providence to go with it, but I still think I'd leave as much as is or as was as possible.
Hi M-Mate,

I am on the fence about what to do. I certainly would like to retain as much originality as possible. What will be the deciding factor is the condition of the frame (it's magnesium, not steel). On one hand the Bubble is a museum peice and should remain that way. On the other hand it would be great to make it tow ready again. Either way I won't be doing anything with haste, and whatever work is done I would strive to make it as correct as possible.
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:37 PM   #107
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Do any of you know of any Airstreams other then this Bubble that have chassis numbers that begin with the letter X? The Byam Bubble chassis number is X251.

I assume this is the 51st Bubble built in the 1955 production. Do any of you know how many Bubbles were built in 1955, and total production of Bubbles?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:49 PM   #108
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I think the "X" meant a special build. The serial numbers weren't as set in stone as they are now, either.
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Congrdulations on getting that trailer!

I'd bet that if you could get that trailer anywhere near Dale (Pee Wee) you'd get more tales and stories about that trailer than you'd believe. Then you would not have to wonder about it's history. You'd know it.
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Something I learned from doing this with my father--Don't just take notes when you talk with PeeWee, if it's okay with him, set up a tape recorder or even a video camera, and record it. You'll be surprised what you forget, and you may scratch your head wondering about a note you wrote, but if it's recorded, you will know what was said.
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I think the "X" meant a special build. The serial numbers weren't as set in stone as they are now, either.
Thanks Overlander63, that would make sense given the magnesium chassis, and some of the other unique features such as the hooks on all four corners near the roof. I assume the hooks were to right the trailer while loading and unloading for shipping purposes (just a guess). They are mounted to the frame supports.

Come to think of it, the magnesium chassis makes the VW tow vehicle story feasible as well.

Maybe the Bubble was built at Area 51 and is experimental?
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Old 05-27-2008, 07:21 PM   #112
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Something I learned from doing this with my father--Don't just take notes when you talk with PeeWee, if it's okay with him, set up a tape recorder or even a video camera, and record it. You'll be surprised what you forget, and you may scratch your head wondering about a note you wrote, but if it's recorded, you will know what was said.
Excellent advice!

PeeWee should write a book. I have a friend who does biographical work. Maybe we can band together and motivate PeeWee. In any case, thank you PeeWee for all that you do share (you lived it)!
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Old 05-27-2008, 07:24 PM   #113
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Congrdulations on getting that trailer!

I'd bet that if you could get that trailer anywhere near Dale (Pee Wee) you'd get more tales and stories about that trailer than you'd believe. Then you would not have to wonder about it's history. You'd know it.
Thank you for the congrats. This Bubble is already a lot of fun!

I hope that someday I can meet PeeWee and do just that.
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:05 PM   #114
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In case this hasn't been noticed, and I only noticed this morning so I apologize if a new thread was started elsewhere...

This Bubble is on the auction block today! It's gone up quite a bit in it's suggested value since we last saw it.... between $75 an $95K! And has all kinds of wonderful new information attached to it that's available in the online description at Gooding Company :: Homepage (free registration required).

So sign up and take a look, and for future people looking back at the archives, I'll include a portion of a screenshot that I grabbed. I hope airhead2 - or whoever this eventually ended up belonging to between May 27th and today - has a successful transaction. It sure is a special and beautiful trailer, and certainly belongs in the hands of a loving owner. Best of luck!
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Airstream will be lucky to stay afloat in this economy. I do not think the airstream drivsion of the company is doing well. Pee Wee would know for sure if this is a con, and I do not trust anyone but the truth. Too many scams out there today we all need to be extra careful. Let us all try to do something so our economy improves.
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, and I do not trust anyone but the truth. Too many scams out there today we all need to be extra careful. L.
So how exactly do I recognize the recognize the "truth" so it can be trusted?

That is the trailer discussed earlier in this thread and that is a real auction house. Actually they are one of the premier auto auctioneers.
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Someplace in the thread i was confused lst a bubble for 16,000 and now this one at Gooding's auction for 75,000. I can not imagine anyone paying 75,000 for that when even if Wally owned it ,as Gooding should have verified or they can be sued ,I will eat my hat if someone is willing to pay 75,000 ??????????????.
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:18 PM   #118
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That trailer has been bought and sold bought and sold. Someone is hoping to turn 16k into 75k... simple capitalism, or is it exploitation? Regardless of what it sells at auction for, it will need extensive restoration. That was an experimental trailer and it needs serious attention. Sure hope no one gets sued over it. Only people that make out in law suits are lawyers, most suers and sue-ees are too stupid to realize that fact. I do hope that little bubble finds someone to love it and it stops being a pawn in the lining of peoples pockets.
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Overland very well said!
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OK...I'm a little lost here.

Did Airhead consign it to the auction?
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