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Old 04-04-2018, 10:19 PM   #441
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You installed a liqueur cabinet in the new classroom you moved into???? New age kind of school then I would guess???? It just seemed so right to ask, though not totally appropriate for the nature of the whole post, I apologize.....sort of.
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:30 PM   #442
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There are days that would probably be a good idea Bweybright... But on the serious side, the lower cabinet in the picture is where they kept the booze, the upper cabinet with the metal insert is where they kept all the mixology equipment.
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Scott,

Not to worry, we are reading and enjoying your posts even if we don't always add comments. Please keep them coming. Fantastic job by the way, can't wait to see her sometime in the flesh.

A whole cabinet for liquor? Now we know what Wally's priorities were.

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Splendid job!!

Can't wait for the final photo of you and yours seated inside in your travel finery in a black and white photo.
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Old 04-05-2018, 08:35 PM   #445
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Splendid job!!

Can't wait for the final photo of you and yours seated inside in your travel finery in a black and white photo.
The over-sized wool sport coat will be a must when you do it!
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I am a late comer to this thread, but am blown away with the quality and tenacity that you have shown in your project. You must be very pleased. I did a renovation of a '72 25 ft tradewind and you have given me a second wind to take the interior to a new level. I do have a thread about what has been done till now. Thanks!
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:52 PM   #447
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Thanks guys! It's been a crazy busy week (the start of little league for both kids) with practices or games every night after work. Last weekend I finished up the belly pan except the area under the black tank. Waste valve and parts showed up yesterday so I can start getting that installed and do the last 2 feet of belly pan in the back corner once it's installed and tested (with clean water, don't get any crazy ideas). Water Heater cover and some little details (awning rail straightening in a few spots, wheel well trim etc) are next and I can start the body prep for primer.

Later this week I should have the bumper and rear window mounts back for the Solex bike so I can double check fit and get those off to powder coating. I'm hoping I'm about 3-4 weeks from paint.
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:46 PM   #448
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FOUND!! Wally Byam's '55 Cruiser - 1956 European Caravan trailer

Today I spent most of the day on exterior. It was warm but very windy.

I spent several hours straightening and cleaning the belt rail sections and got them reinstalled.

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The street side was still covered with some of the original primer. I had spent so much time on paint removal and frame repairs I stopped with the final skin prep in order to get the trailer dry before winter. More paint stripper and scrubbing today and itís down to some detail work with scotch pads and acetone around the rivets and a few trouble spots.

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Tomorrow we are going to look at a shop to rent so we can paint the trailer in next month. Iím hoping it will do the trick. Iím also going to finish up the black tank valve and the belly pan around it and hopefully finish the water heater cover clean up and reinstall.

I picked up the Solex bike mounts from the Welder. The top mounts I thought were just guide pins for the fork and seat post but figured out it wasnít going to work. I dug through photos and found in one from Joeís archive that shows the mounts were basically loops that served as a ďstopĒ then a strap held it tight.

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The flywheel cover and light etc is off the Solex so I can install a few new parts that arrived from France. The wheel brackets worked perfect, but those were just repairs. The top bar was still on the skin when we got it but the bars had been cut off.

The loops will work but will have to be shortened. They go back to the Welder Monday for some adjustments.

Hopefully this next week Iíll get a calm clear day to start metal prep and get some primer on.
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Old 04-15-2018, 10:20 PM   #449
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Today was one of those projects that takes 10 times as long as you plan for.

The original prototype water not only had froze and split but electronically is fried. Itís tucked away for that someday maybe restoration. In the meantime a modern unit is tucked behind the original cover with no permanent modifications to the trailer or cover. Some careful sheet metal work made it tuck right into the round hole in the cover. The modern heater sits on a 4Ē tall platform under the bed. Between sheet metal bending, riveting, and sealing the project took about 8 1/2 hours. Once the paint dries on the steel wire holder for the intake cover I can clip it in and call it done, well at least until I run gas and water lines

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I acid washed the heater cover and scrubbed and scrubbed to get a decent mill finish. It had a rough life but I think it looks presentable at least (especially considering the flew was flatted flush to the trailer)

The shop for painting is going to work, so now I have a target date. May 19th for paint, booth setup several days before that.
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Old 04-16-2018, 06:55 PM   #450
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The paint process is stressing me out.

When dealing with paint, the biggest issue is figuring out the amount of paint I need.

We're shooting this on a Saturday, it's the only option, it's when my painter is available, the problem is the paint shops are closed on weekends.

I measured out the trailer, made it into a box, and figured it's about 700 sf, minus windows, water heater etc, plus waste of course.

I then measured from 12" below the beltrail line, up and over with a flexible tape measure and found it was 20x23 (plus ends, and compound curves). That method, without removing windows, still comes in around 600 sf. That measures more of the outside of a mailbox shape, but I figured that's probably the closest measurement.

So then to paint. I can't get a square answer on how much paint to buy. I don't want hundreds going to waste in a can, but I don't want to sand the whole trailer to shoot another coat if we run out, and to rent the shop another week.

The "Cheap" shopline paint is about $100 a gallon, the mid-line ppg (Omni) is about 225 a gallon, the DCC, their top of the line is about $500 per gallon of sprayable.

PPG chart here:

www.tcpglobal.com/docs/ppgdccp.pdf

shows that i'm looking essentially 518-620 sf of coverage per gallon with 100% usage (not realistic) for 1 mil thickness dry, with 2-3 recommended for dry final coat. That's 3 gallons on the very conservative side. I have roughly 40 sf of windows. Next I thought well maybe I could buy a couple extra quarts, but the prices are almost as much as a gallon.

If I'm at 4 gallons of sprayable, Cheap paint is under 500 for the job, around 900 for the mid range (Omni) and about 2k for their top line PPG DCC.

Anyone have experience with this that can chime in?
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:32 PM   #451
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My first suggestion as to quantity is to go the PPG dealer and talk with them in person. My experience with them was great....very willing to help. A second thought is to go to a local body shop at the end of the day and offer to go buy the guys a few beers to help you figure volume out. You might get good insight, and have a ton of fun to boot!!

A tough decision, but as my late father in law would have done - don't cut short now on what you have done to this point and regret it later. $100 sure hurts to not use, but if you need it and have it, then insurance well spent.

Sorry no definitive answer, only suggestions.
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:44 PM   #452
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My apologies, I should have been clearer that my reference to PPG was a commercial automotive finish sales outlet, not a home paint shop......
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Paint supplies

When I painted my interior panels last summer (off the trailer) I used PPG 2 part epoxy. I found that two coats were needed for the color (light yellow, no metallic). For a long panel 3' X 12' it took 24 oz/coat mixed (2 parts color to 1 part activator). Two coats equates to 32 oz of color for 36 sq ft of coverage. I also shot one coat of clear over that. I don't recall how much paint was used in total. I didn't paint them all together, it was spread over several weeks.

I wonder if your gold color has a large % of clear in the formula or even any metallic flake. You can check with the paint store. It may take 3 coats to get even coverage.

I would forget about subtracting out the windows. With proper technique, to get even coverage, your masked windows will have quite a bit of color on them also.

I assume your priming the trailer first (sorry can't recall if you've already done that). If your priming Saturday, I would recommend discussing with the painter/paint store to tint white primer to a color that will assist with gold coverage. Dark primer under light colors takes more coats to get a true color.

Regarding the paint, forget the cheap line. The choice between Omni and DCC is one for the budget.

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I'm doing some more calling around at lunch today. This trailer is 1956 Cadillac Alpine White, all solid, no metallic which makes things simpler. I talked for about an hour last night with the painter and went over things. He's more confident with the 3 gallons after reading up more and talking with a couple of his painting buddies. I'm going to call a few more paint suppliers and see what their prices are. I would prefer to do the DCC if I can make that work in the budget.
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I took a personal day today to try to get some primer done. 70 degrees, sunny and calm. What a day!

The front end cap was sanded with my DA sander, 180 then 400. Sanding sponges for the edges and gray scotch pads for all the rivet areas.

After that I did the PPG DX533 Acid wash, scrubbed again with the gray scotch pads, rinsed for quite awhile, scrubbing away, then treated with the DX503 aluminum conditioner, then rinsed. Wax/grease remover, then 3 coats of epoxy primer/sealer. The pictures are half dried so there are shiny and dull areas. The whole thing will get scuffed and cleaned before paint day.

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Today was another great day of weather. The front half of the roof and the top half of the curbside wall I finished sanding. After the acid wash and clean it gets the metal conditioner which turns the metal orange. Itís ugly!!
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The air conditioner is coming off for awhile and a hehr vent is going in. We will try it without for awhile. Itís not a tough switch but it will make paint much easier.

This week I hope to finish the curb side and start on the back.
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I need help sourcing the plastic wheel well edging. I did a bunch of googling and found some from an expired ad on the forums classifieds, but haven't heard from the seller, they have been inactive awhile. I know there are metal options, but I want to stay true to the original.

http://www.airstreamclassifieds.com/...well-trim-kit/

Anyone have any ideas? Thanks!
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Old 04-25-2018, 10:14 PM   #458
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I am just throwing darts here... Taco Trim does a lot of marine stuff...maybe they have other trim options that would work for your need?

What is the base material of the trim you need? Are there plastic extrudes that would suit your need?

Maybe looking at automotive restoration sources for wheel well or door edging sources?

Again, I am sorry I can't be solid but trying to offer venues to pursue.

Best of luck.
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Looks similar to some of the aftermarket door edge guards from the 60's & 70's. Perhaps these are close enough.

https://www.trimlok.com/plastic-extr...rim/edge-guard

this one is in the UK

https://www.carbuildersolutions.com/...-3mm-per-metre

I googled plastic automotive edging.
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Have you tried the hardware mail order giant McMaster-Carr? They carry an unbelievable selection of stuff.

Your work pace is dizzying. My compliments.

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