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08-13-2017, 01:47 PM
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#181
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Rivet Master 
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,511
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VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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08-14-2017, 12:53 AM
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#182
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1 Rivet Member 
Currently Looking...
Heemstede
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Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 6
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Attachment 292121
A Quick search. This looks a lot like it!
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08-14-2017, 12:58 AM
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#183
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1 Rivet Member 
Currently Looking...
Heemstede
, Netherlands
Join Date: Aug 2017
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And the picture
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08-14-2017, 07:41 AM
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Rivet Master 
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostap
And the picture
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This is similar, but appears to be missing the fuel(?) tank at the seat post and the rear support for the front fender also differs from the Solex seen in the above photo with Rally.
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Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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08-14-2017, 07:54 AM
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#185
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1 Rivet Member 
Currently Looking...
Heemstede
, Netherlands
Join Date: Aug 2017
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I will keep looking. Prices vary from €200,00 ( not running) to €1000,00 for really nice ones.
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08-14-2017, 07:53 PM
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#186
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Rivet Master 
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,511
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FOUND!! Wally Byam's 55 Cruiser - 1956 European Caravan trailer
Thank you Bostap!
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1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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08-14-2017, 08:00 PM
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#187
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Rivet Master 
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,511
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VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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08-14-2017, 08:07 PM
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Rivet Master 
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
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I suspect that the Solex Bostap found is possibly a 1010, 1400, 1700, or 2200, all of which used that same frame. The 1010 had an updated motor compared to the 660. The later models had various other upgrades. The 3300 and models that followed had a different frame.
It appears to me that any of the 660, 1010, 1400, 1700, or 2200 would look much like Wally's Solex with only small differences.
Interestingly, Wally's Solex appears to have a spare fuel tank mounted to the seat tube (the main tank is attached to the engine). I have been unable to find a photo of any other Solex with this tank.
One more finding. The 660 was made from Sept 1955 thru March or April 1957.
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Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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08-15-2017, 01:08 PM
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#189
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Rivet Master 
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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While we wait on our welder I'm working on pulling the rest of the front belly pan off so I can begin to make a replacement. The front curb corner is the worst panel on the trailer due to a jack knife and tons of added vents for different refrigerators over the years. Today I pulled the pieces off like the access door to work on them and prep to remove the panel and found more of Wally's hand painted list. Sure wish it could be saved but most paint has failed, panel is buckled and Swiss cheese. I did get a picture for measurements. The one vent I can't make go away totally is on the first end cap segment. What do people think, leave it with a patch behind it or just patch the hole neatly and paint? Which is going to be less noticeable?    . Last picture is an old one for reference of the vent location
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08-15-2017, 09:37 PM
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#190
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Rivet Master 
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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First round of welding done. More this weekend. Adding outriggers to tie the step and door frame together. Also adding one more support for the krefft refrigerator.

Before he comes back I'll finish grinding the weld where we spliced and cut some plate and get those clamped in place. Slow but it's progress!
At least now I can cut the marine plywood and get the edges sealed.
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1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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08-15-2017, 10:22 PM
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Rivet Master 
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
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Looks good!
Don't forget that your new fridge outrigger cannot be a full 4" tall, as the belly wrap tapers significantly in the corner. It can be 4" at the rail, but will have to be less the closer it gets to the edge of the trailer.
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Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
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08-15-2017, 10:27 PM
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Rivet Master 
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Thanks Joe, actually it's going to be 1/8" wall 1" angle iron that goes from outrigger by the shell over to main frame rail at an angle so that the outrigger helps support it (otherwise all the stress would be on the plywood and c channel still). Pretty much like the front most little one. I figure every bit helps!
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08-15-2017, 11:39 PM
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#193
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Rivet Master 
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goransons
Today I pulled the pieces off like the access door to work on them and prep to remove the panel and found more of Wally's hand painted list. Sure wish it could be saved but most paint has failed, panel is buckled and Swiss cheese. I did get a picture for measurements.
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If you save the panel, you can do better than a photo. You can use it to get exact measurements of letter height and width and font, etc., at least until you have the list repainted.
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Originally Posted by goransons
What do people think, leave it with a patch behind it or just patch the hole neatly and paint? Which is going to be less noticeable?
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If the patch is going to be noticeable thru the eventual new paint, I'd probably just leave the vent and close it off behind. To me, visually, the vent would be preferable to a patch and it would be a nod toward the later history of Wally's trailer, having been added some time after it returned from Europe.
Being a curved corner end cap panel, getting an invisible patch might be difficult, but maybe not impossible with bondo or epoxy that could be contoured appropriately. If you can make the hole go away completely, that would also be OK in my mind.
These are just my opinions. Others may think differently.
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Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
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08-16-2017, 08:07 PM
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#194
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Rivet Master 
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,511
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My summer is quickly disappearing. I test fitted the front plywood and sealed the edges with epoxy. We have more welding to do before we can install it for good. Felt nice to have it in place a bit.
I'm two clips short of being able to put glass back in. I did my best with some scrap 2024 but it's a little brittle and cracked in the corners. So I'm going to try some other kinds. Here was my first attempt (which wasn't good enough for my taste). I've since made a better template of the old one but didn't bother using the same material again.
FYI these weren't Hehr windows. They use 3" clips for the glass and springs to hold it in. If anyone has a donor window I'd be real interested.
While I was at it I made up a new refrigerator access door. I realized the inner hinge has a crack. Anyone have about 10" of this laying around?


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08-16-2017, 08:25 PM
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#195
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4 Rivet Member 
2014 27' FB Classic
Cambridge
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Join Date: May 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goransons
Thanks to Joe (WBCCI Historian) I have a picture! Not sure on the model number though! Thanks for keeping an eye out!
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Is this Wally working on his tow vehicle?
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08-16-2017, 09:59 PM
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#196
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Rivet Master 
1999 30' Excella 1000
small town
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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I'm glad this trailer found you goranson. Wally is smiling up there somewhere  I would patch and paint any extra holes to bring it back to original condition. My 2cents. Let your gut feeling guide the way. Very impressed on how this restoration has expanded to a car and bicycle. Keep up the good work.
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08-18-2017, 01:55 PM
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#197
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Rivet Master 
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,511
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FOUND!! Wally Byam's 55 Cruiser - 1956 European Caravan trailer
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VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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08-18-2017, 02:05 PM
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#198
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3 Rivet Member 
1967 17' Caravel
Austin
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Join Date: Apr 2016
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Is the hinge material the same stuff used on the over bin doors (aka circa 1967)? If so, I have some. PM me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by goransons
My summer is quickly disappearing. I test fitted the front plywood and sealed the edges with epoxy. We have more welding to do before we can install it for good. Felt nice to have it in place a bit.
Attachment 292437
I'm two clips short of being able to put glass back in. I did my best with some scrap 2024 but it's a little brittle and cracked in the corners. So I'm going to try some other kinds. Here was my first attempt (which wasn't good enough for my taste). I've since made a better template of the old one but didn't bother using the same material again.
Attachment 292441
FYI these weren't Hehr windows. They use 3" clips for the glass and springs to hold it in. If anyone has a donor window I'd be real interested.
While I was at it I made up a new refrigerator access door. I realized the inner hinge has a crack. Anyone have about 10" of this laying around?
Attachment 292442Attachment 292443
Attachment 292444Attachment 292446
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08-18-2017, 03:39 PM
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#199
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Rivet Master 
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,511
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Sent you a private message. I don't know if it's the same but sent you measurements. Thanks for offering!
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VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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08-18-2017, 04:35 PM
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#200
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Moderator

1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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My '63 has 3" non-hehr windows. Is your trailer a California build also?
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