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Old 04-05-2018, 02:53 PM   #1
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The real hot dogs' recipe

A simply question for my overseas friends is about the stright procedure for a tipical American food...yes, I'm just speaking of hot dog! I know what hot dog is and have eaten it too but I'm not sure if Italian people make it right. What kind of bread? Have you a preferred meat for that we define wurstel? Do you cut the bread or is best making a hole ? and what about sauce? How is the best way to warm it up? Not simple for me cooking hot dog and speakin english too!!
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A simply question for my overseas friends is about the stright procedure for a tipical American food...yes, I'm just speaking of hot dog! I know what hot dog is and have eaten it too but I'm not sure if Italian people make it right. What kind of bread? Have you a preferred meat for that we define wurstel? Do you cut the bread or is best making a hole ? and what about sauce? How is the best way to warm it up? Not simple for me cooking hot dog and speakin english too!!
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Depends on where you are, Chicago and New York are totally different styles. I'm pretty sure that Italy has the US beat in every kind of sausage though
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Old 04-05-2018, 03:14 PM   #3
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They typical American hot dog is served on a soft, split-open bun or roll about the same length as the contents (sausage of some sort). The condiments vary widely depending upon region, but can include Ketchup, Mustard, chopped onions, chopped cucumber pickles (either sweet or dill), slices of tomato, rashers of (American style) bacon, and cheeses of various sorts, usually sliced or shredded.

Other regional favorites include sauerkraut, American style Chili (which is a meat sauce), grilled onions and bell pepper slivers, etc.

Some enjoy hot peppers, Barbecue sauce (usually tomato based), and generally whatever fits on the bun and tastes good with the sausage.

The sausage ranges from a rather bland and uninspiring skinless American hot dog, which is a finely minced combination of beef or pork (or both). It can also be a German bratwurst, a spicy Italian-style sausage, a Kosher-style beef sausage, or anything else sausage-shaped that can be boiled, broiled, or steamed and put on the bun.

In my family, which has its various roots in Germany, Norway, and China, we prefer a good spicy Italian-style sausage, fresh tomato slivers, a bit of good Dijon-style mustard, Sauerkraut, and a Kosher-style Dill Pickle spear. A Sharp Cheddar cheese either sliced or shredded fills it out. We generally broil or grill the sausage to a lightly crispy skin and completely cooked inside. We typically use a soft Italian-style roll, and may toast it lightly after it is split.

This sandwich is typically enjoyed on picnics, casual family meals, and at sporting events, accompanied by a good quality pilsner-style beer or a soft drink for the yougsters or non-beer drinkers. Potato chips (crisps) in various flavours are also typically served with the sandwich.
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Old 04-05-2018, 03:20 PM   #4
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Here is Wikipedia's write up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog

The simplest toppings are just basic mustard and relish like these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Poupon
https://www.amazon.com/Heinz-Dill-Re.../dp/B00FAWBS3G

Nathan's are a favorite in the NYC area:

https://nathansfamous.com/products/h...beef-hot-dogs/

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Old 04-05-2018, 04:58 PM   #5
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My favorite is a beer steamed wiener in a regular hot dog bun, smothered in chile with sprinkled chopped raw onions and grated cheddar cheese on top. I might add a little mustard on top of that. Sort of like what an American might come up with if you gave one the job of inventing the pizza. I hope you understand that there is nothing high brow about hot dogs. This is simply street food.
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Old 04-05-2018, 06:38 PM   #6
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It takes a baseball game to make a hot dog taste best. The next best is to roast it on an open fire and follow it up with a marsh mellow toasted just right with no burn. Not sure if you can really enjoy a hot dog if you are over about 10 years old. But it is recommended to try over and over and over again. Pat

Edit: Shall we move on to corn dogs? That's state fair territory!
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Would be better if you try shawarma instead. Tastes 100% better.
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I better not confuse the poor guy with my carrot dog.

In all seriousness, these foot-long hot dogs have been a staple at our local fair for decades.

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My preference is a Chicago Dog. Oh, and never put catsup on a hot dog, unless you are under the age of 12.

The best hot dogs are made with beef only, and often times the brisket.

Chicago dog:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_hot_dog
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My preference is a Chicago Dog. Oh, and never put catsup on a hot dog, unless you are under the age of 12.

The best hot dogs are made with beef only, and often times the brisket.

Chicago dog:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_hot_dog
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Many, many variations on a theme. My favorite, growing up, was a beef Frankfurt encased in natural skin that was fried along with potatoes, onions and green peppers. The vegetables were sautéed separately until soft and slightly browned. The bread for this hot dog was made from pizza dough. A round disk with a hole in the middle... sort of donut style, but a much smaller hole. A "single" hot dog was made of 1 hot dog, folded in half and placed in the bottom of a quarter of the bread disk. The vegetables were piled on top. A "double" was made with 1/2 of the bread disk, 2 hot dogs and double the vegetables. Greasy, but yummy.

This concoction was called an Italian Hot Dog. I liked mine with mustard on the bottom (with the hot dog) and ketchup on the top (mostly for the potatoes). Hold the peppers, please. 😋

Still served in New Jersey at Jimmy Buff's.


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-- snip --never put catsup on a hot dog, unless you are under the age of 12. -- snip --
When you are eating a hot dog, you revert to about 10 years old - catsup, no problem! Pat
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Many, many variations on a theme. My favorite, growing up, was a beef Frankfurt encased in natural skin that was fried along with potatoes, onions and green peppers. The vegetables were sautéed separately until soft and slightly browned. The bread for this hot dog was made from pizza dough. A round disk with a hole in the middle... sort of donut style, but a much smaller hole. A "single" hot dog was made of 1 hot dog, folded in half and placed in the bottom of a quarter of the bread disk. The vegetables were piled on top. A "double" was made with 1/2 of the bread disk, 2 hot dogs and double the vegetables. Greasy, but yummy.

This concoction was called an Italian Hot Dog. I liked mine with mustard on the bottom (with the hot dog) and ketchup on the top (mostly for the potatoes). Hold the peppers, please. 😋

Still served in New Jersey at Jimmy Buff's.


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Luca thanks you!I'm just reading with interest your suggestions I guessed real US hot dog was roll plus pork sausage plus catsup!
PS: my thread has been moved here from Off topics section, that is great! I've discovered the right place to improve lot of stuff about US food. Thank you again

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We like ours with Sour Kraut & Jahapeno peppers. No boil!

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Depends on where you are, Chicago and New York are totally different styles. I'm pretty sure that Italy has the US beat in every kind of sausage though

I take the USA any day over Italy.
I can buy the best of the best from all over the world.
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The only acceptable way to 'boil' hot dogs is to simmer them very gently in a combination of 50% dark beer and 50% water, with a lot of sliced onions. IMHO, this works really well with mild Italian Sausages.

Once they are just cooked through, lift them out and grill them over charcoal if you can to gently to crisp the skin, pile on the nice soft tasty onions from the braising liquid, a dash of good mustard, and enjoy...! Use a nice Hoagie roll for the bun....
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Frankly...I don't eat 'em!

But being that today is opening day for Denver's Baseball Season (1st Home Game) and hot dogs are quintessential baseball-food, there was an article in the local paper today regarding Proper Hot Dog Etiquette.

Who knew...

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Ultimate - Flint Style Coney Dog

My ultimate hot dog would be a Flint Style Coney Dog! The Coney's in Flint, MI are found at places like Angelo's, Mega Coney Island, Flints Original Coney Island and are all made using Koegel hot dogs and the traditional Flint Coney topping. The Flint Coney sauce is considered a dry sauce. It is more of a hot dog topping than a sauce as it is more of a loose meat consistency which has ground beef as its base. The hot dog is always grilled, and actually snaps when you bite into it. The bun is soft and sometimes steamed a little. Besides the Coney Sauce, it is usually topped with alot of finely chopped onions and mustard. Just writing about it makes my mouth water for one, ... so, ... its a little after lunch, and I am a little hungry, .... so I am heading out to Mega Coney in Fenton, MI - RIGHT NOW!
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