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01-21-2016, 08:01 PM
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#401
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Remember, Safety Third

1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,720
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So, just based on one picture here: 16' RV Trailers - Easy Tow Lightweight RV Campers - Scamp Trailers
I'd say that has to be a Scamp of some flavor. Look at the emblem above the name Scamp on the spare tire. Looks like the same as on the Chief's picture. They're website doesn't show a model like the Chief's, but it appears a bit out date. Latest catalog is from 2014.
Jim
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01-22-2016, 12:24 AM
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#402
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Proud Owner Vintage SBB
Currently Looking...
Santa Monica
, California
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 165
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoublTrouble
"Not all important and rewarding careers begin at a university" I said. We need Americans with skills in the trades too.
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You sound like our president who proposed (in May of 2012) <<substantial new spending on education with a $69.8 billion education budget heavily focused on boosting vocational training, both at the high-school and college level.>>
Michael
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01-22-2016, 05:04 AM
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#403
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Rivet Master 
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
Back on topic,
Could this be the new Airstream being tested?😜
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Don't think that trailer looks cool enough for the younger buyers Airstream is after.
Kelvin
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2008 Classic 25fb "Silver Mistress"
2015 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins. Crew Cab, 4x4, Silver
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01-22-2016, 06:22 AM
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#404
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"Cloudsplitter"

2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,352
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJRitchie
Don't think that trailer looks cool enough for the younger buyers Airstream is after.
Kelvin
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I too question whether a plastic 'airstream' shaped like an aluminum Airstream will get the job done.
How 'bout an aluminum Airstream, water tight with a composite floor and a modern, (lightweight), interior.
Keep the 'iconic' and embrace the contemporary.
Bob
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01-22-2016, 08:10 AM
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#405
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Rivet Master 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Currently Looking...
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,112
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There is a hydro forming process that could duplicate the Scamp/Casita/etc. two piece trailers in aluminum. A one piece molded fiberglass interior, much like a boat, could keep costs down and eliminate the soggy floor problem. This type of TT construction pretty much eliminates the customization process either at home or dealership. I could see a fiberglass lower shell with a hydro formed aluminum top section.
DeLoreans were basically a fiberglass body with a brushed stainless steel overlay. Same thing could be done using aluminum by Thor to create the illusion of a hand built AS.
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01-22-2016, 10:38 AM
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Rivet Master 
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
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Amazing as it sounds, some folks really like plastic, if it is rugged and nice looking. Less expensive is going to be simpler, with less features, and if what we hear about Thor's focus on efficient manufacture is correct, it will be easy to build. That sounds to me like a bubble with a liner. Hopefully the suggested pano window will be part of the package. It would be a great visual AS link. Too bad we have to wait for May to get a peek. Pat
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01-22-2016, 10:48 AM
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Rivet Master 
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
Davenport
, Iowa
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,184
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How does one keep an Airstreamer in suspense? Bob will tell us in May, maybe.
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01-22-2016, 11:39 AM
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Rivet Master 
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
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I too question whether a plastic 'airstream' shaped like an aluminum Airstream will get the job done.
How 'bout an aluminum Airstream, water tight with a composite floor and a modern, (lightweight), interior.
Keep the 'iconic' and embrace the contemporary.
Bob

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We're talking about a less expensive Airstream
Kelvin
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2008 Classic 25fb "Silver Mistress"
2015 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins. Crew Cab, 4x4, Silver
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01-22-2016, 08:23 PM
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#409
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3 Rivet Member 
2013 25' FB International
Liberty Corner
, New Jersey
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 209
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The few younger people that I have talked with over the past year are interested in a more aggressive camping. Something with the capabilities of http://www.vmioffroad.com/ is more suited to their needs. AS could do something like this at a lower cost.
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01-22-2016, 08:59 PM
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Rivet Master 
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Pat, what is significant about May?
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01-22-2016, 09:05 PM
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#411
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Rivet Master 
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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The new trailer is supposed to be introduced at a dealer show then. Look back a few pages. Someone posted it prior. Or maybe I have been dreaming? Pat
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01-22-2016, 10:06 PM
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Rivet Master 
2007 19' International CCD
Vintage Kin Owner
Somewhere
, Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,814
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I think I am the guilty party mentioning a May announcement. My comment comes from:
1) Airstream's tendency to announce new products at their annual dealer show in May (last year it was the 26U),
2) Bob Wheeler's statement in the LA Times story breaking this news: "The new trailer won’t come in the traditional aluminum shell, Wheeler said, but will be unmistakably an Airstream when it arrives in the middle of 2016.", and
3) An Airstream dealer's guess as to when it might happen.
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01-22-2016, 11:00 PM
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Rivet Master 
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,952
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Not guilty.
Just intuitive.
The true sign of a good investigator working to uncover the mystery.
Pat
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01-23-2016, 06:14 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"

2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,352
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A good starting point with any 'new' offering.....price=quality.
In fact, why not start practicing that on what your offering us now?
Bob
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01-23-2016, 06:55 AM
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Rivet Master 
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim & Susan
Yup, right click on the image and use the "search google for image" function.
[snip]
Jim
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Thanks for this search tool, very helpful!
The main dividing line for any new AS will be the wet/dry bath stall shower issue. "Less expensive" would imply simpler plumbing, which will rule out a stall shower in a dry bath IMO. Thus the length would likely be less than 20' .
Peter
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01-23-2016, 07:03 AM
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Rivet Master 
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by field & stream
I think I am the guilty party mentioning a May announcement. My comment comes from:
1) Airstream's tendency to announce new products at their annual dealer show in May (last year it was the 26U),
2) Bob Wheeler's statement in the LA Times story breaking this news: "The new trailer won’t come in the traditional aluminum shell, Wheeler said, but will be unmistakably an Airstream when it arrives in the middle of 2016.", and
3) An Airstream dealer's guess as to when it might happen.
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Thanks, whatever your name is (?).
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Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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01-23-2016, 07:23 AM
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#417
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Rivet Master 
2007 19' International CCD
Vintage Kin Owner
Somewhere
, Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,814
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Oh, I don't mean to be a secret agent! My name is Bob Field, hence "field & stream"
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01-23-2016, 07:24 AM
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Rivet Master 
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Bob, thanks
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Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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01-24-2016, 03:01 PM
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#419
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,828
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Airstream is resistant to change and innovation. The Airstream division of Thor doesn't have a big (or maybe any) research budget and Thor is resistant to spending much money on that either. When they do try new things and they don't work, they never want to try it again. Didn't they try foam insulation and double pane windows years ago (before Thor owned the company)?—both had problems, and then they have an excuse to never try again even though both products have improved tremendously over the years.
Fossilization at the company executive level leads to this approach. Maybe there's some new blood, or the good executives have been listened to.
If the new line isn't a copy of what they already know how to do, or a copy of someone's else's innovation, I will be surprised. Maybe it will be as successful as the Base Camp, Bob Wheeler's contribution to innovation. Or maybe his use of OSB subfloors in some models, or weakening of the frames in some trailers leading to sag. When you can sell anything you make as in recent years, there is little impetus to change your approach.
I'd like to see success even though we have ours and are highly unlikely to buy any new trailer no matter how cool it is.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it, and it is sold and replaced by a 2017 Thor ACE 27.2 motorhome.
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01-24-2016, 07:53 PM
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#420
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3 Rivet Member 
2013 25' FB International
Liberty Corner
, New Jersey
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 209
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The last sentence in this innovation article https://hbr.org/2015/06/you-need-an-innovation-strategy does not seem to be in AS favor based on what I read in this forum.
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