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05-01-2013, 12:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Oakley
, California
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,197
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NEW GAME: Help Build A Virtual Airstream
We all have our favorite features in our beloved Airstream's and Argosy's, and some of us have even posted these favorites in other threads. How about a new game? The Virtual Airstream.
Rules and method of play:
The AS must be built from "the ground up" meaning that all suggested items must be agreed upon in a logical manufacturing order...Axles first, tires second, subframe and tongue third, structural frame fourth...so on, and so forth. Once an item has been completed and agreed upon and the next item could be a number of different items, the first post will prevail as the project for that week. All submissions/recommendations will be open for one week, Sunday thru Saturday. After tallying all postings for the week, a decision on the final items design will be added to the virtual trailer. Certain items may be combined if it makes sense, such as axles and tires combined, since we don't want to spend a week mulling over just tires. The first post on that stage of the build will dictate whether bundling will occur for that week. All suggested items and materials must be available and/or reasonable in today's manufacturing environment. Once the trailer is complete, a summary of the final build will be posted. Sound like fun? Get your creative, practical, lustful and vintage ideas flowing! Lets get started.
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05-01-2013, 12:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Oakley
, California
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,197
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MOR Ryde axles, 16" Alcoa rims, Michelin radial tires.
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05-01-2013, 12:52 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Hi,
Six inch fully boxed frame.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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05-01-2013, 01:06 AM
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Rivet Master
1970 27' Overlander
Espanola
, Full Timer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,753
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Neat-o idea Robert!
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05-01-2013, 05:42 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 30' Classic
Derwood
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,515
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Self-contained generator powered by propane located aft of the wheels (too much tongue weight as it is) with larger 60lb aluminum propane tanks in the front (40 more pounds over a Classics 40lb tanks).
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2020 30’ Airstream Classic
**I Love U.S.A.**
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05-01-2013, 06:26 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
asbury park
, New Jersey
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 905
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maybe a poll feature would be helpful? I like this game. maybe we should start with frame... it's in my future
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05-01-2013, 07:44 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Oakley
, California
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,197
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The poll idea is great...any idea how to do that?
Remember: this week's items are axles and tires. Feel free to discuss, promote or dispute with other posters on this topic. Since I suggested MOR Axles you could promote Baxters and point out why they would be a better choice. Ie MOR's would be too heavy and Dexters are lighter, etc.
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05-01-2013, 08:36 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Cat City
, California
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 854
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True and accurate measurement of tank status.
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05-01-2013, 08:41 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Oakley
, California
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,197
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mstephens
True and accurate measurement of tank status.
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Axles and tires can do that? Lol just trying to get things started off on the right path.
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05-01-2013, 08:49 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Oakley
, California
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,197
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I would like to modify my previous suggestions:
Axles =MOR-Ryde
Wheels and Tires= TWEEL
The Tweel (a portmanteau of tire and wheel) is an experimental tire design developed by the French tire company Michelin. Its significant advantage over pneumatic tires is that the Tweel does not use a bladder full of compressed air, and therefore it cannot burst nor become flat. Instead, the Tweel's hub connects to flexible polyurethane spokes which are used to support an outer rim and assume the shock-absorbing role of the compressed air in a traditional tire.
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05-01-2013, 09:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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Frame separate from 'shell'..so you can do 'frame off' future repairs/maintenance
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05-01-2013, 02:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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Pre run wiring and plumbing raceways in trailer frame for future FARKELING.
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Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
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05-01-2013, 02:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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Establish "flexation" legends marked on trailer to show original "set" while sitting on wheels and level. These can be similar to maritime markings on ships and barges.
This way the owner can document the state of their trailer to subsequent owners and watch for problems.
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Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
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05-01-2013, 03:35 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJtoNC
maybe a poll feature would be helpful? I like this game. maybe we should start with frame... it's in my future
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Actually, a logical manufacturing order would start with the frame. Can't add axles until you've got the frame and the springs to attach them to.
But if you want to do sub-assemblies, then axles, brakes, rims, and tires would all be one sub-assembly.
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I thought getting old would take longer!
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05-01-2013, 03:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Oakley
, California
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,197
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How about a cam and lock positioner on axle assy.? Turn a long screw (like bal jacks), it unlocks the axle assy. Back the trailer against wheel chocks, axle rotates in eliptical cam, and presto! instant 6 inches of addl. temporary clearance.
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05-04-2013, 09:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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Laminated fiberglass panels for floor instead of plywood.
Pull out ramp for handicap access (like Uhaul trucks have. )
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Channing
WBCCI# 30676
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05-04-2013, 10:34 PM
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Maniacal Engineer
1971 25' Tradewind
Lopez Island
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,244
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I'd prefer hybrid torsion/air suspension like is used on some high end horse trailers.... this would make trailer height quite adjustable, and with differential inflation side to side would allow trailer to self level in most cases. The frame section should taper to the rear if practical to offer additional ground clearance.
Wheel wells should be of 1/8" 6061 aluminum, fastened to the frame.
Hydraulic disc brakes of course.
I'd like that 6" boxed frame to include a full perimeter support for the floor.
I'd like to see the belly pan fastened in smaller sections.
- Bart
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05-04-2013, 10:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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Laminated Fiberglas panel flooring. Can imbed heat strips for chilly morns
Pull out ramp at door for handicap access.
Wiring raceway with installed "pull strings"
Access panels for service of tank sensors
Slots under frame into which you can slide and secure underbelly panels. (More accessible to components. )
Hydraulic leveling jacks could push down the plate where axles are attached.
Tire pressure monitors wireless to TV
Built in air lines with quick disconnects secured in recessed panels near wheel well openings.
Hot and cold external water sources.
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Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
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05-04-2013, 10:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barts
Hydraulic disc brakes of course.
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Hi, hydraulic disc brakes, only if they can be controlled with a vacuum booster, run by a vacuum pump, with a vacuum storage tank, and with ABS. Todays little electric motor driven pumps are a joke with many failures.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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05-05-2013, 05:54 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
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How about a discussion on what size this virtual airstream is going to be... That's a lot of "stuff' for a Bambi ;.) 1 axle /2/3/4? Weight an issue? This is already turned into a 10,000 lb elephant and we haven't even gotten to the pair of 200 gal fresh water tanks yet. I think we need to agree on what the final size will be before we can 'build' it.
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