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Old 04-13-2024, 07:27 AM   #1
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Front End Separation or Not?

I don't have much of any signs of external FES on my 25 FC FBT. A rivet or two may be weak, I can fix that, but inside, the front compartment door frame and the inside mating piece have moved apart. This has been this way for years. I can possibly pull the two pieces together and rivet, but is this an indication of a worse issue? photos attached. Probably 20K miles or more on AS. I pulled the seal back to take picture, I had sealed it some time ago to keep seal in place.
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Old 04-13-2024, 09:06 AM   #2
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I don't have much of any signs of external FES on my 25 FC FBT. A rivet or two may be weak, I can fix that, but inside, the front compartment door frame and the inside mating piece have moved apart. This has been this way for years. I can possibly pull the two pieces together and rivet, but is this an indication of a worse issue? photos attached. Probably 20K miles or more on AS. I pulled the seal back to take picture, I had sealed it some time ago to keep seal in place.
Not sure if you have seen this video from Vinnie, but it is a good overview of what happens to the frame/body of the AS and how he repairs them. If you get in touch with him or his crew, they can help you I am sure.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...8&action=click
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I also have a 25' FC FBT & what I found out is the AS recommended way to determine FES is too have someone stand on rear bumper and jump up & down and you watch where your shell meets the frame just below the access door & if the shell moves away from the frame you have FES. It doesn't take a heavy person or a lot of force at the rear to get the AS moving my wife was all it took at 140lbs. I have no popped rivets just 2 very small dimples. My shell moves separate from the frame. So FES repair is needed. Trailer is a 2017 with a over 30K miles on it & I have no idea if the dimples have been there for several years or if it happened months ago.
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I also have a 25' FC FBT & what I found out is the AS recommended way to determine FES is too have someone stand on rear bumper and jump up & down and you watch where your shell meets the frame just below the access door & if the shell moves away from the frame you have FES. It doesn't take a heavy person or a lot of force at the rear to get the AS moving my wife was all it took at 140lbs. I have no popped rivets just 2 very small dimples. My shell moves separate from the frame. So FES repair is needed. Trailer is a 2017 with a over 30K miles on it & I have no idea if the dimples have been there for several years or if it happened months ago.
Watch the video with Vinnie!

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...8&action=click
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