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03-27-2010, 07:24 AM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,169
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Why people switch from Airstreams to MHs
It seems to me that in most cases (I can think of one exception where someone went to a 5er), people who sell their Airstream do so because they decide they want a motorhome. Of course, in a few cases they end up with an Airstream motorhome .
Nonetheless, I'm curious what line of reasoning brings people to this decision and how it works out for them. Are they drawn to the possibility of greater overall space? Easier backing and maneuvering? The difficulty of hitching and unhitching? Stability or other problems encountered while towing? Something else?
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03-27-2010, 09:13 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 811
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I went the other way from a 38 footer diesel pusher to a 25 Safari.
The reasons: 1. Boondocking and Forest Service camping--almost impossible in a low clearance humungous motor home. 2. Ease of repairs and maintence. I can do and fix most everything on my Airstream. I was always chasing around to fix or service something on the motor home. 3. Money, a humungous motor home costs a lot and depreciates like a stone. The Airstream costs a little and depreciates the same.
I do miss a few things about the motor home. 1. Ease of setup and departure, particularly at night, in the rain or in super hot weather. If it was raining, all I did in the motor home was park and hit the automatic leveller button and turn on the satellite t.v. 2. On the road comfort. My wife would take the wheel, the dog and I would grab the two couches and the miles would pass while I read the paper.
Which do I prefer? I have had the Airstream for almost six years, much longer than any of our four previous r.v.'s. I had the humungous motor home for 18 months and was glad to see it go.
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03-27-2010, 09:26 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
1954 22' Flying Cloud
2017 30' Classic
Currently Looking...
Ojai
, California
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 254
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We went from a 28' AS to a luxury MoHo. We had two Golden Retrievers at the time, and like to hit the road for a few months at a time. This gave us a lot more space. Also enabled my husband to continue working on the road with his own designated desk/space. But alas, I missed the iconic AS AND! the friends we made in our local unit. We are now (and will be forever) restoring a '54 FC. Also purchased a 19' Bambi last year to use until restoration of FC is completed. If I had to pick one way to travel, it would definitely be the Airstream!
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03-27-2010, 09:59 AM
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Rivet Master
Las Vegas
, Nevada
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 626
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Our choice is the AS/MH. In our present lifestyle seems like we do more actual traveling than camping, which plays a big role in deciding, but soon as we're both retired that probably will change. The few times we have been camped in the same spot for more than a week we have learned to rent a cheap car at or near destination before getting hooked up. We don't go anywhere without our dog (he's 13) but turns into a puppy whenever he realizes we're getting the MH ready for a ride.
I've driven the box MH's and they really don't come close to handling as well as the AS/MH especially any time the wind is blowing.
Overall the AS/MH is best of both worlds, IMHO.
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03-27-2010, 10:04 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
1984 31' Airstream310
Ajo
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 345bill
Overall the AS/MH is best of both worlds, IMHO.
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Double ditto, we love ours!
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03-27-2010, 10:06 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 29' Ambassador
1974 25' Tradewind
1974 27' Overlander
Indiana
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 677
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I will have to echo what "handn" had to say. We went from a 35' Bounder to a "78" Ambassador. Part of the decision was to get back to our roots of camping: state parks. We found it difficult to find state parks with long enough pads and all the hook-ups we wanted with the MH. But there certainly was more convenience and reliability with the MH. Jump in, turn the key, and go. Interesting thought...camping vs. traveling.
Bob
TAC PA-5
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03-27-2010, 10:29 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 265
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I have to agree with Handn and Roadrunner. We went from a 45 footer to a 32 Excella 1987. When my father passed away we inherited the A/S. Now don't get me wrong I loved the motorhome very much except for the 10k in repair bills every year, either water heaters, air bags, electrical issues. The bad thing was that you were limited to freeways you could use, ie where you could go. Now for the A/S it get just as much attention as the motorhome, we can take it anywhere we want, most of the maintenance is done at home ie very little cost. We use it more often than the mh. We spend more time outside and enjoy the living room view of the oceans, redwoods in noerthern Ca. to Whaleshead in Broodking Oregon one of our favs. I can't ever imagine getting rid of the A/S its a family heirloom to be passed down the line.
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03-27-2010, 10:41 AM
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LOTS of threads on this tt/moho issue jammer...
and even a poll or 2.
there are positives for both and negatives too...
some folks are driven 2 choice by the +s and others the -s...
this thread is recent enough and explores some of the issues and reasoning...
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f238...ome-39210.html
there are some significant issues related to larger families or hauling kids by either approach.
the PRICE of fuel and MPG for mohos has been partly responsible for a shift to tt in the last few years...
still, typical pattern is womb >> crib >> stick home >> tent >> van (vw) >> tt >> moho >> rest home....
afta 25 yrs with an a/s moho,
my morph was to tt (who knows what may happen next) so i am working the flow backwards...
where is that crib?
cheers
2air'
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03-27-2010, 11:11 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
1984 31' Airstream310
Ajo
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2airishuman
typical pattern is womb >> crib >> stick home >> tent >> van (vw) >> tt >> moho >> rest home....
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You speak the truth, my friend.
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03-27-2010, 12:17 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic
Field and Stream
, PA & MT
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 819
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Although we didn't go from an Airstream to a motorhome, we went to a 5th wheel, our reasons for doing so would have been the same had we selected either a 5th wheel or a motorhome.
Basically, it came down to our desire for more comfort, spaciousness, and (take a big gulp!) a bit more luxury. I could give you a much longer list, but I'll just illustrate with several:
1. King sized bed with choices of mattresses.
2. Leather recliners and sofa (with feet rests).
3. Entertainment center, a couple large screen (one is 42") HiDef TVs.
4. Much larger bathroom area, including bigger water heater, larger holding tanks, separate toilet room, 2 bath vanities, etc.
5. Larger refrigerator/freezer including ice maker and water dispenser.
For more primitive and off the beaten track type of camping, I still tent and truck camp, and enjoy camping or Rving by just about any means or method (just so you don't think I've entirely made the transition that 2air outlined -- I'm not yet one step removed from permanent underground "camping" - with a memorial stone overhead!)
John
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03-27-2010, 01:12 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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I think a lot has to do with the individual and how they are using their unit, whatever it is.
I like the Airstream I have because of my ability to fix anything and everything on it. It is a very durable design and will withstand plenty of over the road movement that will destroy lesser trailers. To me a MoHo is a maintenance headache and if something major happens to the drive train you are stuck, with the AS trailer I can rent a Uhaul to get me home, or even buy a $5000 truck.
We still own a popup for trips to the nearby state parks and are looking at a small MoHo to use for weekend trips, to some destinations. The MoHo does have the advantage of being able to stop, use the bathroom, grab a sandwich and never set foot outside.
I have used my AS for longer term living and it suits me just fine...kind of like an efficiency apartment. You just have to be creative with you packing AND remember you can't take it ALL with you.
Aaron
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03-27-2010, 02:03 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 25' Classic
Oro Valley
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 835
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I agree with the person that responded with it is a very personal decision....
We are old (70 each)and a little tired Home in Oro Valley is hard to leave. When we had a motorhome we towed a toad; for me that was a lot to think about--remember all the hook-up stuff, brake buddy, was the steering wheel in position, etc.
Now I am again wishing for simplicity; just get in the RV and drive but then again....
You have to exercise the motor and I have always had a problem with gas/diesel engines--constance maintenance and I am not good at that.
The trailer (Airstream) is easy to maintain: no black marks dribbriling down the side and batteries are batteries whatever you have. I just like the situation of pulling in to the park and positioning and punching a button and the coach is level--of course that costs $ to maintain. There is/was something not quite right and needing attention.
If/when we sell our trailer, I think we will stay home.
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2002 Classic 25'
2003 Expedition EB 5.4L, AWD, AdvanceTrac Class IV hitch pkg. Reese dual cam/Prodigy
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03-30-2010, 07:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 30' Classic
Derwood
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,515
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I actually hear quite the opposite - people want to tow, setup, then take the TV out for local sights.....
Biggest reason is the restrictions to those bigger guys in the State & National Parks - even some of the local spots are starting to restrict to trailers 27 (or even 25) and below....
Guess its in how ya use it!
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2020 30’ Airstream Classic
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03-31-2010, 08:36 AM
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Kmpro
Currently Looking...
1984 31' Airstream310
Lubbock
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 301
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Why people switch from Airstreams to M/Hs
We've been at this RV thing since 1969. We've had trailers, 5th wheels, VW popups, Van campers and all the way up to the luxury 40 ft diesel pusher. We started with a 1963 AS International Overlander in 1969 and got hooked on the lifestyle. Right then, we decided we wanted to go full-time at a later date. My wife and I usually communicate reasonably well on most things, but trailer backing was not one of those things. I may not be the the best at backing a unit in, but she didn't have a clue when it came that operation. After many trials with backing, we decided the M/H would be better for us. Our marriage too. We have owned 13 RVs and our 1984 AS 310 may be the last one for us. We sold our 40 footer and decided to downsize. I went 1 day without a M/H and bought the Silver Hornet to refurbish. It's an ongoing project, made more difficult by the fact we live in it while traveling. Although we headquarter in Lubbock, Tx, we have a cabin in Cimarron, NM, and a house in Denver,CO. So we live in it about 5-6 months out of the year. So when we leave Denver, we are traveling. I personally prefer the M/H with a Toad because it seems easier to deal with, notwithstanding the Brake Buddy hook up etc.etc. We generally travel to our cabin in NM on the way to care for the wife's sister who is in assisted living in Amarillo, then on to visit friends in Lubbock where we lived for many years. Motorhoming just seems to suit our lifestyle better than the trailer.
Safety is another reason. When in the M/H if the surroundings begin to deteriorate, you light the fire and drive off, whereas with the trailer puts you in harm's way to get back in the car and leave. We stop at roadside rest areas a lot while traveling, so that's a consideration for us.
I feel like the cost of maintaining and insuring the M/H is about the same as the trailer and tow vehicle. So again, it comes to personal preference. More creature room=trailer, more travel, less camping=M/H. The choice is yours and your time of life helps determine this too. There is no wrong choice with AS!!!
Mike
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03-31-2010, 09:24 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1989 25' Excella
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Hobe Sound
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 294
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TT to MH
We started renting MHs out west for a couple of weeks at a time and flying out. Finally wanted our own, had a heavy duty pickup truck and bought a 1966 24' land yacht. Loved it and renovated it. Used it for 8+ years and sold it for every penny spent. Purchased a 77 GMC 26' MH. Renovated it and after 2 years found the sleeping not large enough. Again we sold it this time for a profit. We kept referring to as the airstream and could not help ouselves, sold it and purchased our now present 89 345LE and love it! Found that with the MH with a wrangler toad have pretty much have the best of both worlds. I think the only step up from the airstream would be Prevost, when I hit the lottery . Our 345 is the cats meow. We travel all over the US with it happily.
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03-31-2010, 11:50 AM
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New Member
Currently Looking...
Eugene
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2
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Right in the middle of Selling 2007 Airstream Classic 30' slide and going to 43' MH
And getting a Bambi. Simply need more room to fulltime. I love my Airstream. It's my first Airstream.
We will hit the small camping spots in our Bambi. We really can't do that in a 30' Airstream very much.
Also Airstream trailers are not four season RVs. The holding tanks are not heated.
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04-01-2010, 06:13 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 31' Classic
holland
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 190
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im curious why there are so many late model motorhomes on the market with virtually no miles?do people impulse buy these units,then realize the cost of operating is way too much?do they lose there nerve as they age to manuver these big rigs?i like simple so the airstream travel trailer fits the bill for us.when i speak to people on the road most of them say a motorhome is a maintenance nightmare.one guy told me if its not breaking he felt like he wasnt camping.
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04-01-2010, 04:07 PM
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aluminauti
Where we
, Park it!
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 316
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Why people switch from Airstream trailers to motor homes (or 5th wheels) . . .
. . . . when they can't lift the stinger any more
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04-01-2010, 07:55 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Fond du Lac
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 396
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We made the switch from a 34' Airstream Classic to a 43' Dutch Aire diesel pusher by Newmar about 2 months ago. I've had 1 tent trailer and 5 travel trailers (the last 2 were Airstreams). We are spending 5-6 months on the road and just wanted more living space, storage, and conveniences. This is not to say we won't someday buy a Bambi or something for shorter stays. Newmar makes a very nice product that makes it feel more like home than an RV especially with 4 slideouts. That was important for us and we wanted to try this. If we like it well enough, we will full-time for awhile after selling the house with no rush to replace the house. It has many more conveniences but it also has more to go wrong in the future. That's why I got the extended warranty and went with a brand that is known well for it's quality control and service. You have to go into it knowing that it's going to cost more but it's a wonderful way to travel.
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2010 43' Newmar Dutch Aire
formerly 2006 34' Classic
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04-01-2010, 10:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xonvldz
im curious why there are so many late model motorhomes on the market with virtually no miles?do people impulse buy these units,then realize the cost of operating is way too much?do they lose there nerve as they age to manuver these big rigs?i like simple so the airstream travel trailer fits the bill for us.when i speak to people on the road most of them say a motorhome is a maintenance nightmare.one guy told me if its not breaking he felt like he wasnt camping.
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I believe you hit the nail on the head, but add in the economic turndown. For people who suddenly lost 1/3 or more of their income, the maintenance and storage costs - or a choice between paying your kid's health insurance or putting diesel in the moho - Well, selling the moho turns into a no-brainer,doesn't it?
Also, I've talked to four or five people who realize they've owned a moho for 2-5 years and only used it for 2-5 WEEKS. Most bought their moho's to change their driven 80 hour work week habits... and then couldn't follow up on their intentions. A sensible person takes a look at a moho growing green algae on it's skin... faces reality... and sells it.
To reference back to 2Air's post, I've seen three moho's for sale this spring where the owner or his wife has either died or become totally disabled within months of purchasing the new toy. Sad.
Paula
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