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09-02-2009, 09:13 AM
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Mouse Nest Hunter
1961 28' Ambassador
Sherburne
, New York
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 160
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Proof that SOB's are C-R-A-P!
I found this video of the building of an SOB, Jayco or something. Take a look at the quality (or rather, lack thereof) built into that unit. The sad thing is that this looks like a promotional video!
I watched it and it made me very, very happy that I have an Airstream.
msnbc.com Video Player
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09-02-2009, 09:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 26' Cruiser/Overlander
Kennewick
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,884
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Is there a similiar video to show Airstream manufacuring?
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09-02-2009, 09:38 AM
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Mouse Nest Hunter
1961 28' Ambassador
Sherburne
, New York
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 160
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shermybaby
Is there a similiar video to show Airstream manufacuring?
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Probably. I'll bet it doesn't show "roof trusses" being installed, either
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09-02-2009, 09:46 AM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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Here's one: It's from the '80s, and I'm still looking for a newer one I found a while back.
And this is the other one I was looking for:
http://videos.howstuffworks.com/hows...lers-video.htm
You'll notice that all the furniture is loaded and installed AFTER the walls go up, an important difference to those of us that want to renovate...
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09-02-2009, 09:51 AM
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Iwannagocamping
1979 31' Sovereign
Rineyville
, Kentucky
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 262
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Standard modern assembly line building. Just like a car, toy helicopter, a microwave or most other modern items.. Note that the whole 6 hours thing is only "assembly" if you added up all the time (man hours) in the fabrication of all the parts, you might be surprised how much goes into something like that. It only takes 90 minutes to "build" a corvette.. at least that's what it looks like when you go the factory, but all those sub assemblies don't just appear out of thin air ready to be mounted.
Doesn't make them C R A P. I will point out that particular Jayco can be bought for a whole lot less then a comparable length AS, and for a lot of families, that is a good thing. Gets them out of the house and camping. And I can tell you, after looking for a couple years, there are PLENTY of SOB's out there that are NOT c r a p.
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09-02-2009, 09:55 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Two Harbors
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 311
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dakota's Dad
Doesn't make them C R A P. I will point out that particular Jayco can be bought for a whole lot less then a comparable length AS, and for a lot of families, that is a good thing. Gets them out of the house and camping. And I can tell you, after looking for a couple years, there are PLENTY of SOB's out there that are NOT c r a p.
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I agree...my guess is that the Jayco being built sells for 1/3 or less than a comparable length new airstream. Not sure how the "value equation" would come out if you compared relative quality AND relative cost between the two.
Tom R
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09-02-2009, 10:21 AM
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1950 Flying Cloud 7039
1950 21' Flying Cloud
Allen
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 611
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How Its Made
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09-02-2009, 10:55 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2019 28' International
Leonardtown
, Maryland
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 262
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My first unit was a 26 foot Jayco. We really enjoyed it. I tried to buy it back and it had been resold to parts unknown. Ours was a great starter trailer.
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09-02-2009, 11:03 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1975 Argosy 24
Malakoff
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 490
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American Craftsmanship can bear more than one name - surely!
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09-02-2009, 11:24 AM
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Liberator
1972 Argosy 24
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Heart of Dixie
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,659
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32 a day...nice numbers.
Roof looks no better than a SOB I had in 1974.
That wood will turn into styrofoam once it gets wet
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09-02-2009, 11:39 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 25' Classic
Hydes
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 713
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No one can work that fast with any precision, Slam them together and get them out the door.
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09-02-2009, 01:42 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Greeeneville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,301
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I have owned a Jayco 5th wheel since 2003. It is now going on 21 years old. Every appliance in it is original and still working. The build quality, might leave something to be desired, but then again, it's wood construction. The wood frame construction cannot be beat for keeping warm in the winter. My trailer is a four season, Designer series. My trailer has seen a lot of road miles, but is now content to spend it's days at a permanent camp spot in the east TN mountains. I have the AS for travel and rallies.
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09-02-2009, 01:52 PM
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Just an old timer...
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,760
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Easy there, big fella... I chose an SOB in '06 after twenty years of Airstreams. My SOB is every bit the quality of Airstream, won't dent in a hailstorm, has every bit the longevity of an Airstream, is a true four seasons coach, and doesn't have filiform corrosion issues. And, I paid about half for it new than the comparable A/S 25'.
Not all of 'em are junk.
Roger
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09-02-2009, 02:39 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
LONDON
, ON
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 276
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Were parts of that video speeded up?
Those are some fast workers.
Glad to have my rivets and aluminum frame.
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09-02-2009, 03:03 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 368
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I wouldn't lump all SOBs into the same "crap" bucket! As 85MH325 mentioned, there are some quality units out there, but Jayco just isn't one of them!
Also, if I were a marketing head, there is NO WAY I would want my potential customers seeing such a fast past (read as shoddy craftsmanship) assembly line. Were a majority of those workers Amish? Didn't know that they could take caffeine or other "stimulant" drugs.... Slow down brother!
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09-02-2009, 03:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 Argosy 24
now being enjoyed by Heath and Mary in
, Vermont
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,432
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Some more proof....
Sergei
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09-02-2009, 04:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 27' Overlander
Longmont
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 951
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Hey- how'd you get a picture of my mom's house?
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09-02-2009, 04:56 PM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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, At Large
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 21,276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverhobby
I have owned a Jayco 5th wheel since 2003. It is now going on 21 years old.
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It must be new math... I have a dog born in 2006 that is also going on 21 years old...
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09-02-2009, 06:16 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
holland
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 436
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 85MH325
Easy there, big fella... I chose an SOB in '06 after twenty years of Airstreams. My SOB is every bit the quality of Airstream, won't dent in a hailstorm, has every bit the longevity of an Airstream, is a true four seasons coach, and doesn't have filiform corrosion issues. And, I paid about half for it new than the comparable A/S 25'.
Not all of 'em are junk.
Roger
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If it is Big Foot then you are correct, a great design and durable is the operative word. Have they survived the storm? I heard trouble was brewing for them.
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09-02-2009, 07:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Currently Looking...
Great Lake State
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,480
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 85MH325
Easy there, big fella... I chose an SOB in '06 after twenty years of Airstreams. My SOB is every bit the quality of Airstream, won't dent in a hailstorm, has every bit the longevity of an Airstream, is a true four seasons coach, and doesn't have filiform corrosion issues. And, I paid about half for it new than the comparable A/S 25'.
Not all of 'em are junk.
Roger
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Love them all, even the homemade ones, having fun is what its all about. Check some of these SOB oldies from our T.C.T rally and from the rv hall of fame..........toastie
http://www.travelingvintage.com/tct_pic/index.htm
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