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08-15-2019, 11:30 AM
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2002 30' Classic S/O
Fleming Island
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Some, but maybe not all, newer ITBCs use brake pedal pressure to decide how much voltage to apply to the trailer brakes. While sitting still in my 2013 Ram 2500, the harder I press the brake pedal, the more voltage is applied.
Electric brakes may not be linear, but they are proportional; the more voltage is applied, the harder they brake.
As perryg said, you should have your controller gain set to just below the point where the brakes lock up. The neat thing with discs is they are more repeatable. The drum brakes will fade when hot or wet. Even mild stops will cause decreased braking power. I discovered that with my tests referenced above.
Al
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2002 Classic 30 Slideout -S/OS #004
2013 Dodge 2500 Laramie 4x4 Megacab Cummins
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05-14-2021, 01:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' International
redondo beach
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 769
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
As the department of Overkill Engineering says, “if it isn’t broken, break it, and fix it to be even better...”
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If it is not broken your overlooking something.
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05-14-2021, 02:51 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mythbuster88
If it is not broken your overlooking something.
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I have a nice set of hammers of all kinds and sizes, and have been known to break stuff with big pipe wrenches…of which I have a good assortment.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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05-14-2021, 04:13 PM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,436
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I've taken working stuff apart (furnace sail switch) just to see the rascal.
And yes it still works.
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16" Michelins, Hi Spec Wheels, Max Brake, Dexter 4 Piston Disc Brakes, Carslile Actuator, Equal-I-Zer, Dill TPMS. Campfire cook. BMV-712. DEMCO 21K Lb Cast Iron coupler
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05-14-2021, 04:22 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 30' Classic
California
, MD
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 256
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike S.
Pretty sure the disc brakes are not available for the newer Airstream trailers. I have a 2014 with never lube bearings and hubs, and none were available a year ago. Ended up taking the auto adjuster brakes off, and installed manual adjustment brakes instead. At least they won't run hot now. Had an issue where individual hubs would be hot enough for grease to come out of the bearings. No way to put the grease back in, so that wasn't good. Once a year I get to jack up the trailer and adjust the brakes. And I got a spare bearing cartridge. Since I have a spare now, I will never need it.
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In a month the AS Service Center is installing Never-Lube axles on our 30 Classic and Dexter Disc Brakes.
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05-14-2021, 10:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' International
redondo beach
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 769
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cru-in
In a month the AS Service Center is installing Never-Lube axles on our 30 Classic and Dexter Disc Brakes.
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Thats too long a drive for me. We need a west coast version.
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05-14-2021, 10:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' International
redondo beach
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 769
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GCinSC2
I've taken working stuff apart (furnace sail switch) just to see the rascal.
And yes it still works.
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Picture in a new thread would be nice.
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05-14-2021, 10:58 PM
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#28
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Rivet Master
2016 30' International
redondo beach
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 769
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cru-in
In a month the AS Service Center is installing Never-Lube axles on our 30 Classic and Dexter Disc Brakes.
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But you have an 04, will they do it on a new trailer?
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05-16-2021, 07:27 AM
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#29
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,215
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Converting brakes is not an assembly line option for Airstream.
We had seal failures on three of the four Never-Lube Dexter bearings on our 2014 31' Classic in 2020 with a disc brake conversion to Kodiak calipers in 2015. Dexter charged $800 for the four replacement bearings. They said they were discontinuing that bearing and ours were among the few that were left in inventory....
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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