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Old 04-01-2009, 05:28 PM   #1
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OK, here is the deal. A friend of mine has this 28 FT Airstream. He has the title and told me he thinks its a late 60s? Does ihat look correct, or more like an early 70s? I am new to this, so wanted to ask you pros.

Its a Soverign Land Yacht according to the badging. However I dont see a typical trailer plate with a year built, ect on it. The Airstream name plate has what appears to be a serial number in on it. I will see if I can post pics on here.

In any case, it appears to be rather solid. Its been sitting for many years in Northern Nevada in a very dry climate, here rust is absolutly not an issue. I have pulled many many hot rods out of this area over the past 20 years and its great metal. However, whats great for metal, is horrible on wood and upholstery.

This will need a complete restoration. My main issue is that it has two large dents in adjoining panels, see pics. How hard is it to remove the dents and or replace the panels. Also, I know this may be a dumb question, but can I pull the dents out as best a possible, do some body work and paint the particular panels on either side to match??? OK, I know, but I do my own body and paint and if the cost is prohibitive to replace panels(and I have no idea) then I know I can pull the dents, use a minimal amount of filler and paint the panels on the wrecked side to match the same ones on the other side and give it a hotrod look in DODGE red to match my 05 Diesel dually tow vehicle???? dont hate me, I had to ask.

It will obviously also need a new fridge, stove, oven, and all new electronics and instruments ect, can these be had at a decent price?

Axels, look OK, but I know everyone on here says the 60s versions need to be upgraded???? what does that cost and what years of Airstreams have decent axles that dont have to be swapped out. Disc brakes, do they make a kit and if so, what does that cost?

OK, I have a ton of questions and I know I am asking a lot and am sorry. I have taken many many pics and some of wiring and the cabinets, ect. I see some interior electrical wire that I will post pics of, that looks like it was done after the original build. This must mean that the original wiring did not work at some point, or is the wiring in the below pics original.

In any case, this is agood start, its missing the front and real glass and need a lot. But he wants $1800 for it and I may e able to get it for a few bucks less, not sure. I would prefer a 26 footer, but I have no issues hauling it wil my o5 diesel dually Dodge I would guess.

What doe sone of the bad boys or girls weigh.

My 15 year old daughter, Danni is inspired and we have a noce size shop and build cars, so the restoration thing is not all new to me. However, I do metal work and I cant weld aluminum!!!!

Any suggestions, observations or reccomendatins or value is appreciated. I would rather pass and find something else if need be.

Its a dual twin with a rear bath. I would almost like to find a way to make the dual twin the main bedroom and get a new pull outcouch for my daughter.

Also, the bathroom, WOW, its small but had a tub???? what the heck. wHATS the best thing to do with these. ???????

This thing has a TON of storage.

Dave
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Old 04-01-2009, 05:40 PM   #2
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Please, don't paint that trailer.
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Old 04-01-2009, 05:46 PM   #3
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Looks like my 1967 Trade Wind but 4 more feet of it. Too bad about the dents. Other than that it really looks like my Trade Wind. I'm missing the rear glass and compartment door too. InlandRV can help with that.

If you post the serial number, someone can tell you all about it.

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Old 04-01-2009, 05:53 PM   #4
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Looks like my 1967 Trade Wind but 4 more feet of it. Too bad about the dents. Other than that it really looks like my Trade Wind. I'm missing the rear glass and compartment door too. InlandRV can help with that.

If you post the serial number, someone can tell you all about it.

Best of luck,

Is this th enumber at the bottom of the pic???

1308-S313-2754 am I reading it correctly. see pics.
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Old 04-01-2009, 05:54 PM   #5
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That looks like a 1968. And being a Sovereign that would make it 30ft long. Replacing panels is not that hard, and you can find out how to do from the forums here. Some folks have had decent luck with pushing most of the dents out from the inside. The price of $1800 would be in the range of what you would expect to pay.
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Old 04-01-2009, 05:57 PM   #6
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Lots more pics, see anything scarry

Pics of what I would guess is a later mod water heater fabed into the water heater area???? looks more like my LANCE camper.

And what do these lines go to, were they original or are they ad one and why exterior???

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Old 04-01-2009, 06:01 PM   #7
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Old 04-01-2009, 06:16 PM   #8
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The VIN makes it a 1968 Sovereign (30') made in California. It has the International Trip package and the twin bed layout.
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Old 04-01-2009, 06:17 PM   #9
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Buy it

I paid nothing for mine and you would be getting a better deal. No small thing that you daughter is on board. check out " help on a 57 overlander".
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some more interior and of the twins

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Old 04-01-2009, 06:27 PM   #11
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I paid nothing for mine and you would be getting a better deal. No small thing that you daughter is on board. check out " help on a 57 overlander".
Yes sir you are correct. She is 15 as of December and wants to get this thing ready for next March, NASCAR, drive 7 hours down to Vegas. We live an hour south of Reno. She also has this to work on

70 Belvedere 2 door post, 318 column shift, headrest bench seats. W ehave many mopars, the little 318 cars is safer for her.

If she wants nice things, she MUST work for and on them.

P.S thanks for your service!

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Old 04-01-2009, 08:22 PM   #12
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The lines in post #6 are probably propane lines. Safer on the outside than the inside. They could use more clamps and some sealant where that grommet has fallen out. I put vinyl tubing around my propane lines to protect them from road stuff.

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Old 04-02-2009, 07:29 AM   #13
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Thumbs up Looks doable to me...the upgraded wood cabinets are beautiful in the Internationals!

Here are a couple of webpages that can help you assess "what you should pay" and "what will it cost" to fix things up. These are both ballpark guides, things can "cost" much more depending on how much you and your daughter like "nice things"...I have a penchant for "nice things" too.
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These coupled with the forums will become your friends if you decide to drag it home ~

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Take an ice pick, and probe the floor in the bathroom. That will give you a quick indication if the flooring might need to be replaced. Elsewhere folks have said to probe under each window, and the door, because of probable leaks. You'll want to know that going in, if you have to gut the bathroom to replace the floor decking. But what the heck, go for it! Good luck!
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I don't think you even need an ice-pick, I'd assume that it needs a rear floor replacement at the least. It's been in a pretty dry climate, so perhaps the rest of the flooring is okay, but the leaks from within are always a real big problem on the rear-bath models.

Other than that, I'd say go for it. You clearly understand the amount of work it takes to perform a major restoration. Those big dents on the endcap are a concern, they are compound curves and would be extremely difficult to replace. But, there are people on this forum who have had success with pushing dents like that out from the inside. To do that, you'd need to remove the interior endcap-piece, which I believe is ABS on that year-model.

Take a look around the forums to see the kind of work you'll be signing up for. There are a huge number of threads on renovations, I'd start with the ones linked below. The threads are lengthy, but extremely informative. Pay attention to the date stamps on the posts-- full renovations are usually measured in years rather than months or weeks.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f44/...ons-35399.html

Read through the first several of those threads like homework, and then you will be able to make an informed decision regarding whether or not you want to do the work.

I hope you decide to go for it, and if you do, please be sure to post a lot of pictures as you work through the restoration. You should have an amazing time working on this with your daughter-- I have an 18-month old daughter of my own, and I'd love to someday work on a project like this with her.

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Well, I believe we have a deal!!!! The owner, who I know is out of town but I made him an offer. I believe the trailer is in good over all shape as far as the main portin, but it does need the dents repaired and some missing items, like the rear panel and windows. I will start checking into each forum for particular advise.

I do think is may have some sag as when I had my wife and daughter stand on the back bumper and move up and down, it did flex a bit, so that will have to be addressed.

And, I kind of wanted something a bit smaller, but after having my wife check it out, ( see below pics) and seeing how excited she was, we decided to make a go of it. My intent is to make is kind of a resto mod. Meaning that I want to update the applinces and functionality, and keep most of the original type of look, however with new paint and some restoration form a hot rod type of family. I will update the cabinets as far as function and do a new counter top or counter tops with a new laminate and one way or another it will be very cool and have out touches. I am looking forward to posting a lot and feel I need a new user name. This one is for my drag police car. So I will have to think about that too.

I am always open to advise on where to buy new appliances and converter and many parts to make this nice and safe.

Thanks for the advise. Once my new website is up and running, I will post the restoration either on their or here.

Dave, Linda and Danni Brown.
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Well, I believe we have a deal!!!! The owner, who I know is out of town but I made him an offer. I believe the trailer is in good over all shape as far as the main portin, but it does need the dents repaired and some missing items, like the rear panel and windows. I will start checking into each forum for particular advise.
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I am looking forward to posting a lot and feel I need a new user name. This one is for my drag police car. So I will have to think about that too.

I am always open to advise on where to buy new appliances and converter and many parts to make this nice and safe.

Thanks for the advise. Once my new website is up and running, I will post the restoration either on their or here.
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Congratulations. You certainly seem far more prepared to do a restoration than a lot of people who buy vintage trailers, so I think this will work out well for you.

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Old 04-05-2009, 10:32 AM   #19
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Thanks for the recent replies and letting me know how to change the user name, if/when we pick one, it will be a family thing. My other is for a drag car that I raced and its not catchy for this site, but the user name needs to match the project and if you dont have one, well----.

I have been on here a while, lerking and trying to learn, but I do know how to build a home and a hot rod, so I figure this combination is perfect. I someday will also find a small older Bambi to tow with a 38 Plymouth business coupe I am also building. It has a 5.7 HEMI from a 2005 truck going into it and should tow something small. That is yet another dream. But, we have been in love with the Airstream idea for years, and now at 47 after amassing too much stuff, including mortgage, I am yearning for an easier life. Its obvious to us, its not a trailer----ITS A WAY OF LIFE!!!! And I a am very lucky to have a wife who is up for antyhing and willing to work on this rig with me and my daughter. I retired last year with 25 years of service from the Sheriff's office and rossed right over the line into California and work there as an officer now until I can sell this home and then, we are gone!!!!!!! But while I live here and have this very nice large shop, I must get this beast ont he road.

Thanks again

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