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08-23-2003, 11:38 AM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
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DeLorme Street Atlas 2004
Just got it in the mail yesterday and I am mildly disappointed.
The good points:
It now includes Canada, which is of very little benefit to me personally.
The maps are a bit prettier on the screen.
The GPS works better (faster lockin).
The routing is definitely a little bit better, but it still takes me on some short jaunts on service roads where an interstate highway bends at an exit.
The bad points:
They haven't fixed a lot of screwups on the maps themselves, including the whole area near my home which is distorted so badly that the GPS puts me in another subdivision entirely.
The human factors are terrible. A couple of years ago, they departed from the Windows standard interface for some unknown reason.
A lot of detail is missing. Microsoft Streets and Trips shows the Lubbock Airport and all the service roads. With SA, I can't even determine where the airport is to place a stop at the adjacent RV park.
It is overpriced. MS Streets and Trips cost me $19 at Sams with rebate. SA cost me $45 on a supposed internet deal for users.
I think it is going back.
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2018 Interstate GT, "Sabre-Dog V"
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08-23-2003, 05:22 PM
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5 rivets, 1 loose screw
1966 20' Globetrotter
Saginaw County
, Michigan
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 1,555
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John, have you tried MAPQUEST ?
Free maps and thorough directions to anywhere in the USA.
Good site. Great price.
Rog
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08-23-2003, 08:21 PM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
, Texas
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Quote:
Originally posted by Rog0525
John, have you tried MAPQUEST ?
Free maps and thorough directions to anywhere in the USA.
Good site. Great price.
Rog
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Yes, I have tried MAPQUEST long ago and discarded it as pretty useless.
To see if MAPQUEST had improved recently, I just entered my next trip into MAPQUEST and got a routing that is much longer than either Street Atlas or Streets and Trips and would take me unnecessarily through congested areas.
You get what you pay for. IMHO, MAPQUEST gives you a ballpark estimate and that is about all it is good for.
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2018 Interstate GT, "Sabre-Dog V"
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08-24-2003, 12:20 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1996 30' Excella
Brighton
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2002
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According to Mapquest the Brighton Borders is at the end of my street, which is about 5 miles from the real location. After 2003 Street Atlas which had several new streets in our area in the wrong location I decided not to bother with the 2004 version. I use it only to rough out a trip then finalize it on real maps to check the routing as they have a habit routing on service drives and into congested areas. I also still order TripTicks from AAA for every trip.
Jim
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08-24-2003, 03:59 PM
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5 rivets, 1 loose screw
1966 20' Globetrotter
Saginaw County
, Michigan
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 1,555
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When I went to the southern burbs of Pittsburgh to pick up my Caravel early in July, I used Mapquest to pinpoint the street address and printed out the map.
Their driving directions would have routed me through downtown and the Lincoln Tunnel. I opted instead to use the I-79 bypass and missed the heavy congestion, thank goodness.
Cinsidering that the site is free, I find it worth the price.
BTW Jim, I was in Brighton earlier today for a family get together.
My nephew owns an electrical contracting company there.
Beautiful area.
Rog
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08-24-2003, 08:18 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs
, Florida
Join Date: May 2002
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Microsoft MapPoint 2002 is a real "gem", too. Our town square has no label. It's label is on an intersection a couple of miles out of town. Some towns don't even exist, such as Bowers, PA. A lot of roads that have names are just numbered also. All for the low, low price of $295.
I think DeLorme Street Atlas 6.0 was/is the best.
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08-25-2003, 11:26 AM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
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Earlier Delorme versions
I liked the Street Atlas a lot better before they changed the user interface. Unfortunately, I passed the old version to my daughter before I found out how much I disliked the new interface. It is totally non-intuitive now.
The reason that things like Mapquest are pretty useless, in my opinion, is that they don't allow you to use your own or a friend's knowledge to plan a route. For instance, a brand new traffic light put in within the last few weeks makes a major difference in the route I will take out of Austin because it solved a major safety problem while towing. Another example is the instruction I received from my brother to take a different exit than the apparently shorter route to get to his farm. No way you can factor these things into Mapquest.
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2018 Interstate GT, "Sabre-Dog V"
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08-25-2003, 05:42 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
Join Date: Aug 2003
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I have used Delorme steet atlas 6 and it seems ok.
Currently I am using my Garmin 76map with Mapsource Metroguide but the drawback is I can only load a few areas.
Greg
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08-25-2003, 05:47 PM
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Rivet Master 
1969 31' Sovereign
Broken Arrow
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,455
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I also liked the older version of Street Atlas. 8.0 was the last old style interface.
I now use Street Atlas 2003 to plan a trip and then use Map Create to program my Lowrance GPS.
Garry
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