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08-22-2005, 03:10 PM
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#41
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Rivet Master
NOVA SCOTIA
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,448
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Maybe there should be a poll.
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Originally Posted by Rog0525
I agree. In fact I would be in favor of eliminating the ability of one member to subtract karma from another. It usually results in hurt feelings, anger or a pi--ing contest, you know, the contest where everyone involved gets wet. If you leave negative karma for someone, they are naturally going to feel insulted and be tempted to retaliate, justified or not.
Karma points are reputation points and we all want, or should want, a good reputation.
The risk of personal feuds on these forums should be avoided, IMHO.
It's nice to have the ability to reward good posts with positive karma, but do we really need the ability to privately impugn another member's reputation if we disagree with their comments? We have the ability and the right to respond publicly to comments we don't like (politely), ignore them or report posts to moderators if we find them especially offensive.
How will we feel if we have tarnished someone's reputation on these forums, then later meet them in person?
Remember when your momma said "If you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all"? Mommas are very smart people. C'mon kids, let's turn those frowns upside down.
As the karma awarding system stands now, anyone could leave bad karma for me as payback for any perceived wrong they feel I have commited here or elsewhere. Heck, someone could join up here just to leave bad karma for any member they have a grudge with.
I say we should accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative.
Wtite a good post....get a reward, write a bad post....get no reward and run the risk of being sent to the corner by a moderator.
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Totally agree with your comments
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08-22-2005, 03:57 PM
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#42
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3 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
1964 19' Globetrotter
charlotte
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 155
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sigmund the sea monster
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Originally Posted by TomW
So, what is the Moderators' preference? Report bad posts, or ping the poster with bad karma?
Tom
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BTW...I checked out your photos. You've done a terrific job with the AS.
The last photo made me laugh...that's what made me think of the above title.
Boy, it really got slimed huh?
But, it looks amazing now that you've got a little sweat equity invested.
Nice job.
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08-22-2005, 05:17 PM
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#43
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,021
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I agree - positive karma only would be a plus
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Originally Posted by Rog0525
I agree. In fact I would be in favor of eliminating the ability of one member to subtract karma from another...
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The interesting thing is that only positive karma can be posted at at least one of Andy R's other websites (I am also a member of discusscooking).
Its the same software, so being limited to only giving positive karma is possible.
Tom
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08-22-2005, 06:03 PM
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#44
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,977
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomW
So, what is the Moderators' preference? Report bad posts, or ping the poster with bad karma? Tom
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My personal preference is both. Bad posts need to be reported for a number of reasons. Most folks don't want to spend time on a forum that has degenerated into a mean sprited, off topic or chaotic mess. I think that posts that violate forum policies should be reported asap. Moderators don't read every post immediately - we don't have time. Giving me a heads up about a problem is a huge help.
Karma can be a Peer Review system and deliver kudos or course correction in a private and personal way. The danger here is that it's easy to forget to give good karma as well as bad.
I give positive karma for helpful, content heavy posts, posts that improve my day and sometimes... just because. I give negative karma for mean spirited posts. I don't ding someones karma just because I don't agree with them or for bad spelling, grammer etc - that seems sort of petty. I alway try to leave a comment with the karma - there's no point unless the recipient understands why they've been "karma'd".
So... report the big stuff, use karma for the little stuff and for giving warm fuzzies....
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08-22-2005, 07:07 PM
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#45
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,778
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomW
Ya know, I wouldn't mind just a little more guidance on negative karma.
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BTW...negative karma 'dings' are only 1/2 value. Say your positive karma has a power value of 10 ~ your negative karma only has a value of 5. So positive karma is always worth more than negative...here as in life!
Shari
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08-22-2005, 07:52 PM
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#46
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5 rivets, 1 loose screw
1966 20' Globetrotter
Saginaw County
, Michigan
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 1,555
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
BTW...negative karma 'dings' are only 1/2 value. Say your positive karma has a power value of 10 ~ your negative karma only has a value of 5. So positive karma is always worth more than negative...here as in life!
Shari
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In life there is a very disproportionate tendency to remember people by the mistakes they made rather than their contributions. Are we going to apply that sad reality to these forums?
I'm certainly in favor of encouraging members to avoid making bad posts, but very dubious that allowing ANY member to harm another member's reputation is the right procedure.
I've had my say, I'll go to my room now.
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May you camp where wind won’t hit you, where snakes won’t bite and bears won’t git you.
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08-22-2005, 08:04 PM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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, At Large
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 21,276
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Okay, how about this?
How about if you can only give bad karma to a forum member if you have previously given good karma to that member?
That way, you could let your feelings be known to that person, without doing more than taking away half of what you gave him.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rog0525
In life there is a very disproportionate tendency to remember people by the mistakes they made rather than their contributions. Are we going to apply that sad reality to these forums?
I'm certainly in favor of encouraging members to avoid making bad posts, but very dubious that allowing ANY member to harm another member's reputation is the right procedure.
I've had my say, I'll go to my room now.
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08-22-2005, 08:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 30' Limited
Ashland
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,610
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My opinion is with Rog: I too was brought up on with Thumper's lesson that "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." I think that fully applies to our karma awards on this forum: when the posting is nice, reward it. When it's less than nice, ignore it and let the mods moderate. Now, I'm off to award some karma to Rog for saying so well what I wanted to say
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1995 Airstream Classic Limited 30' ~ Gypsy
1978 Argosy Minuet, 6.0~Minnie/GPZWGN
Chev Silverado 2500HD Duramax/Allison, 4X4, Crew Cab
WBCCI #5013 AIR #2908
WDCU
Go, Mizzou...Tigers on the prowl!
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08-22-2005, 08:27 PM
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#49
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
1964 26' Overlander
1977 25' Tradewind
Eastern
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Good people deserve good things to happen and bad people deserve bad things to happen, that is how Karma works.
Give people their due.
I have seen some real scumbags on this forum and I've seen some Saints.
Your actions should result in what you deserve.
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Peace
Gary
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08-22-2005, 10:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,778
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
How about if you can only give bad karma to a forum member if you have previously given good karma to that member?
That way, you could let your feelings be known to that person, without doing more than taking away half of what you gave him.
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If you feel bad about leaving bad karma, you can always go back and give that person good karma after they've changed their ways & cleaned-up their act...it'll all level out over time.
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Originally Posted by janet's husband
Good people deserve good things to happen and bad people deserve bad things to happen, that is how Karma works.
Give people their due.
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Trust me, I think very seriously before giving negative karma...while handing out good karma much more freely.
Shari
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09-21-2005, 02:47 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,335
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When the karma system first arrived on the forum, I thought it to be a little harmless fun. Now I've experienced it in practice, I believe it to be an important part of the continuing health of the forum. I sometimes write articles for our little local newspaper on subjects of local interest, e.g pollution levels in the river, or sightings of unusual wildlife. I have never had any feedback on any of these articles. No resident has thanked me for an article, or disagreed with it. The work just disappears. After a few years, I wonder if I'm wasting my time. This is a real disincentive to writing further articles. With the karma system, I've had the pleasure of forum members indicating that my efforts are valued. I'm a simple soul, and that just keeps me happy. Also, that prompts me to show appreciation for others in the same way, so I'm always looking for especially good posts. Here's karma for karma!
Nick.
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12-13-2006, 09:28 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,335
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Who has over 1000 karma points?
We can all see and appreciate those who contribute many posts to this forum, but I was wondering which of our members has received shed-loads of karma. For example, are there any of you who will confess to having over 1000 points? (Not me, for sure ). Anway, for those that have, I salute you.
Nick.
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"The price of freedom is eternal maintenance."
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12-13-2006, 08:23 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
West of Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 6,699
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Nick,
I suspect that most here will be too modest to post their karma level. Or possibly too embarrased?)
Now having said that, I don't have any issues with someone doing so, and certainly wouldn't want to discourage them.
We'll see how it goes.
Dave
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12-14-2006, 12:04 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,683
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Maybe people have spent all of their karma points on items from the karma catalog .
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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12-15-2006, 08:51 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,335
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You've made my day!
Some powerful person in cyberspace has made me laugh out loud while seated at a PC in a supposedly quiet public library in FL. My karma count has, by a remarkable coincidence, been VERY rapidly accellerated to a remakably coincidental number. That's very funny, but to whom do I send the karma for this?????? Another of life's mysteries....... send for Guy Noire.
Nick.
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Nick Crowhurst, Excella 25 1988, Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Diesel. England in summer, USA in winter.
"The price of freedom is eternal maintenance."
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12-15-2006, 11:46 AM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nickcrowhurst
Some powerful person in cyberspace has made me laugh out loud while seated at a PC in a supposedly quiet public library in FL. My karma count has, by a remarkable coincidence, been VERY rapidly accellerated to a remakably coincidental number. That's very funny, but to whom do I send the karma for this?????? Another of life's mysteries....... send for Guy Noire.
Nick.
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I just shot you some.....I'm wondering if I have a lot of Karma or a little? It tells me I'm a bit over 800. Is this low? High? In between? Not sure if that was suppose to be a secret like a PIN number or anything, but that's where I'm at......
Can I cash in the Karma Points for a gas card like I can with other points systems?
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12-16-2006, 08:18 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,335
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvertwinkie
I just shot you some.....I'm wondering if I have a lot of Karma or a little? It tells me I'm a bit over 800. Is this low? High?
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Well, Twink, that's about the same as me, so perhaps we're typical. (Statistical sampling was never my forte...... ) I'd just like to salute those like Pahaska, who has been posting great information and photos for years in a self-effacing manner, to the benefit of many, as well as the mods, doing such a valuable and vital task behind the scenes.
Nick.
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"The price of freedom is eternal maintenance."
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12-16-2006, 09:56 AM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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I agree, there have been many folks worthy of lots of karma.
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12-16-2006, 10:26 AM
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#59
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,977
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvertwinkie
I'm wondering if I have a lot of Karma or a little? It tells me I'm a bit over 800. Is this low? High? In between?
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Karma is really variable. New members have almost none and so typically, the longer member has been registered and active, the more karma they have. The range of karma points amongst members is between 0 and 2500 (approx) with most members falling somewhere under 300 (ish).
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12-16-2006, 10:35 AM
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#60
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Rivet Master
NOVA SCOTIA
, CANADA
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,448
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Janet
Karma is really variable. New members have almost none and so typically, the longer member has been registered and active, the more karma they have. The range of karma points amongst members is between 0 and 2500 (approx) with most members falling somewhere under 300 (ish).
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Karma is a great way to show someone that there post has made an impression on you and has stood out.To me it could be from knowledge gained,a great picture or story or even a little chuckle.
I'm glad the forums have this feature and gives me a good feeling to show someone I appreciate their contribution.
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AIR # 7916
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