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06-09-2020, 04:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 29' Ambassador
Boynton Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 568
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All I want to know is... where are you camping? heh, heh
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06-09-2020, 05:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Ooooh, creepy!
(Grin)
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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06-09-2020, 05:23 PM
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#23
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2 Rivet Member
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Beavercreek
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 69
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We have the same windows in our 23D. I wondered the same thing, why. We added a separate roller shade for the lower window.
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06-09-2020, 08:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 85MH325
Under the heading of "what WERE they thinking?" I found this photo this morning from a 20FB ad. Really? A bathroom window over the toilet at waist-level?
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Well, Airstreams can be quite flashy sometimes.
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06-09-2020, 10:34 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 25' Flying Cloud
Gainesville
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 117
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Key follow on questions:
1. Who would ever admit to making this mistake.
2. What nickname has the design team applied to the guy who signed off on this?
This situation is an absolute riot to look at and think about.
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06-10-2020, 06:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 23' International
Centennial
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,684
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I put reflective film in the lower window. If the neighbors are nosey and see the upper half of me standing in my Airstream, good for them....they have something to talk about
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06-11-2020, 06:05 AM
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Wolfwhistle
Margaritaville
, Banana Republic
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 705
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I can imagine a design mandate from the boss. Small window must be installed in pairs.
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06-11-2020, 06:42 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 27' Globetrotter
Elbert
, CO
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 329
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It looks like the toilet lid would cover most of the moon hole in the up position, so it is indeed a brilliant design. And the added light illuminates the LZ, thus improving your aim.
Kudos, Airstream!
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06-11-2020, 06:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1969 18' Caravel
Greenville
, whereEverIroam
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 1,412
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You do realize that if the lid is in the upper position, and it blocks most of the light, it counters your observation that it illuminates the LZ. Unless of course you aim & fire with the lid closed.
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06-14-2020, 09:45 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,335
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Sand-blasting is good
I took the entrance door window and the bathroom window from our '87 Excella to a local sandblaster. Fifty dollars produced an elegant solution which disposed of two awkward blinds. The door blind would stick to the glass with condensation, so we couldn't roll it up until it had dried. It attracted dirt and mould. The bathroom slatted blind was a nuisance to clean and to raise and lower. Sandblasting the glass produces a completely opaque but translucent finish. No curtains or blinds are required.
Nick.
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06-14-2020, 09:50 AM
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Just an old timer...
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,766
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Congratulations all... your comments on this wacky design "feature" have actually catapulted this thread into the weekly email Airforums Newsletter!
Well done!
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06-14-2020, 10:29 AM
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Steve C
2018 25' International
Petaluma
, California
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 30
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Be cool if the toilet was facing the other way.
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06-14-2020, 10:48 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Comox
, British Columbia
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 151
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skyguyscott
Yes.
I believe most of the responses to your question are missing the point and the larger picture.
Of course there are a variety of ways to fix this mere manifestation of the real problem.
The larger picture, the point, the real problem is that you should have to fix this problem at all.
Or, to state the obvious, putting a window in the bathroom in this location is boneheaded. The very fact that airstream would choose to design and install a window in this location calls into question their sanity and their common sense. Once you call into question common sense, It leads to a host of other questions and doubt in the ability of any company, airstream in this case, to have common sense in designing anything.
That is the point.
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As a female owner of an older 22’ double axle I do not think this is a design mistake at all! Do not think it needs to be fixed! Wish my trailer had those windows in the bathroom! A bathroom in a trailer with little to no day light always feels like a dark damp place no matter what the weather outside. Little to no natural light makes it impossible to apply make up etc in a bathroom.
It is only an issue for those who regularly camp in crowed campgrounds and insist on standing up and are not concerned with cleaning up or having someone else clean up their missed shots. if someone insists on standing they simple needed to take 3 seconds to pull the blind down.
If someone is to lazy to pull the blind they can do as they would probably do at their home if a bathroom window is visible to neighbours. Simple put a bit of film on the window to distort the clarity.
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06-14-2020, 11:05 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2020 30' International
Ingleside
, Illinois
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 110
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Its purely for exhibit!!!
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06-14-2020, 11:35 AM
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Old dog new tricks
2017 19' Flying Cloud
Banner elk
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 43
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Funny
This is the funniest thread ever!! Lots of laughs. I think the window is for daylight...our 19’ fc has one but it doesn’t open which would be great for air, humidity etc. happy for the light in day, pull shade at night, amused when I forget. If that’s what folks wanna see?
Great laugh.
And yes, I doubt an interior designer has ever camped!!
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06-14-2020, 12:12 PM
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#36
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4 Rivet Member
2013 20' Flying Cloud
2014 16' Sport
2019 23' Flying Cloud
Dunedin
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 345
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I have the FC20. They have blinds that cover the windows, but I put Deco film over mine. The newer one’s window actually opens I think. Sorry pic is sideways. Never can figure out how to fix that.
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06-14-2020, 12:24 PM
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#37
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3 Rivet Member
Tifton
, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 85MH325
Under the heading of "what WERE they thinking?" I found this photo this morning from a 20FB ad. Really? A bathroom window over the toilet at waist-level?
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Very simple really.
It's called....."THE MONEY SHOT".
Have a seat, they take a shot and you are all over the internet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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06-14-2020, 12:27 PM
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#38
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Lake George
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 117
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
You have to remember that many of the RV designers and corporate management have never used an RV.
Brian
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True enough, but presumably most of them have used a toilet.
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06-14-2020, 01:28 PM
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New Member
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Carson City
, Nevada
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 4
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Sitting down
I learned fairing early on that peeing while standing up in an RV, while quite manly, causes endless splatter all over. The walls, toilet, floor - everywhere. So, while this window may offend the splatterers, just turn around, sit down and the issue disappears. Be clean.
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06-14-2020, 02:36 PM
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#40
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2 Rivet Member
2012 30' Flying Cloud
Morongo Valley
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VeloBuckeye
Does that roller shade roll all the way down to cover the lower window?!?!
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Yep!
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