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Old 11-20-2017, 05:33 PM   #21
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Thanks for everyone’s thoughts and feedback. I didn’t know the younger weight issue... which could be an issue depending on my ultimate tv. Haven’t been in a 27 yet, but now will definitely look. Thanks all!
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:15 AM   #22
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We have a 2018 25FBT on order that I was planning to pull with a F150 3.5 Ecoboost (tow package) with rear air bags and a load balancing hitch. I was also going to upgrade the batteries when we add solar so some extra weight there perhaps. The specs say the hitch weight is roughly the same between the FB and RB 2018s. Should I be concerned about being able to pull this trailer with this truck? Would the RB be better? I can probably change the order.
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Old 11-21-2017, 06:25 AM   #23
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25 FB Twin vs RB Twin

As we are actively looking at FC 25's all of these comments are very helpful - thanks to all of you. FWIW I test drove a 25 FB Twin at my local dealer a few days ago using my own vehicle - a stock 2014 VW Touareg diesel with Class III hitch, V6, 406 ft/lbs torque, 7,700 lbs towing capacity. A WD hitch setup was used. The Touareg sat level at rest and while driving with normal body height. The FC 25 FB towed like a dream, including acceleration, lane changes etc.
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Old 11-21-2017, 10:45 AM   #24
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We have a 2018 25FBT on order that I was planning to pull with a F150 3.5 Ecoboost (tow package) with rear air bags and a load balancing hitch. I was also going to upgrade the batteries when we add solar so some extra weight there perhaps. The specs say the hitch weight is roughly the same between the FB and RB 2018s. Should I be concerned about being able to pull this trailer with this truck? Would the RB be better? I can probably change the order.
lots of posts here with folks (including me) who like the F150 EB 3.5 with the 25's. No issues there with the engine and towing capabilities. What you want to verify is the payload on your door, and make sure your within payload specs; this includes your tongue weight, your self and passengers weight, and gear in the bed. That is key if you want to be within specs.

As for front bed or rear bed...advantages to both, as listed in the previous threads...what do you and your wife find important: rear dining view, microwave, outside storage, window in bathroom?? Both are great size trailers.
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:02 AM   #25
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My problem with a FB is the door is in the rear. That might limit how far back you can park in a campground.
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:21 AM   #26
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One thing I like about our FC 25FB twin is that during the day we have a change room with tinted windows, no need to draw the blinds.
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Old 11-22-2017, 08:24 AM   #27
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Here is the text of one of my earlier posts about 2014 FC25FB hitch weight:

We have a 2014 FC25FB twin with factory solar (52 lb. Lifeline batteries). The tongue weight is 1252 lbs. loaded for a three week trip and with an Andersen hitch (less than 60 lbs.), and about 75% propane and 50% water. Add about 7 lbs. for the missing propane. Add 150 lbs. for the missing water, but most of that would be on the axles. The 1252 lb. weight is from the Airstream production line scale—I had them weight it while I was there for warranty work.

My first TV was a 2013 F-150: Steer GAWR 3,900, Drive GAWR 4,050, GVWR 7,700, Max Trailer WR 11,300, GCWR 16,900, and Cargo WR 2,000. I know these numbers don’t exactly “add up”, but they are what Ford quoted.

My first hitch was an Andersen that I switched to a Blue Ox with 1500 lb. bars. Certified scale weights are shown here:

Unhitched: Steer 3,500, Drive 3,340
Andersen Hitch: Steer 3,120, Drive 4,900, Trailer 5,600
Blue Ox Hitch, 1,500 lb. bars, zero links showing: Steer 3,500, Drive 4,140, Trailer 5,860

As can be seen the drive axle was over loaded with either hitch. I could have lived with 100 lbs. over with the Blue Ox however the trailer ride was apparently smooth with the Andersen but I think the Blue Ox setup would have shaken it apart.

The Ford was a great truck but there just wasn’t enough of it. I traded for a 2016 GMC 2500 Duramax and reinstalled my Andersen hitch. Nothing is over loaded.

We have been to Alaska and back and throughout Newfoundland (the worst roads in Canada in my opinion) with this rig with no interior damage and minimal cargo rearrangement.

I still have a very slightly used Blue Ox for sale and I’m motivated to get it out of the garage if anyone is interested.
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Old 11-28-2017, 04:57 PM   #28
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FB, easy choice for us. Better view from rear
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:45 PM   #29
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We liked the FB so we could have the campground views from the dinette. We like the FB Twin because it gives us a larger sleeping area (basically a king), it makes the trailer look larger front to back, and the area between the two beds is a great dressing area. So far we are really liking our 2014 25 FB Twin Flying Cloud.
I am perfectly in agreement with DoubleR on all points, in respect of our 2016 Flying Cloud 25 FB Twin.
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Old 11-29-2017, 05:27 AM   #30
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Also, the FB-T refrigerator does not require a fan for ventilating; as I recall, the RB-T needs a fan -- something else to listen to.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:31 AM   #31
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Would like to hear pros and cons from owners and their decision to go with one over the other. Like the extra toilet/ bathroom size... but is it worth giving up the extra couch size and window in the main area? Also, with the rear bedroom, the window in the bath seems to help with claustrophobia! Advice? Really like both models.
Bought new 25 ft Flying Cloud front entry in 2014. Went with the twin bed format for the added storage, which is significant. I would qualify that, by adding you do need to stay with the front entry and not go to the rear entry. If you go to the rear entry the front storage is accessed behind the gas tanks, which is a real pain. We use the trailer quite a bit and would go the same way again. If you desire a double bed go longer. The 25 ft front entry model with twins is a sweet combination.

I should ad that if you need to access the hot water heater for say a leaky bypass valve, it is rather simple in that you only need to remove the playwood panel under the mattress of rear left bunk.
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Old 11-29-2017, 01:41 PM   #32
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My problem with a FB is the door is in the rear. That might limit how far back you can park in a campground.
Do you mean to say, the FB is longer than the RB? My wifes objection was the FB door, being in the rear, required more walking to get in and use the bathroom!; so this time with the 28', we have a front door access which makes it all seem less stressful!
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... front entry. Went with the twin bed format for the added storage, which is significant. I would qualify that, by adding you do need to stay with the front entry and not go to the rear entry. If you go to the rear entry the front storage is accessed behind the gas tanks, which is a real pain. We use the trailer quite a bit and would go the same way again. If you desire a double bed go longer. The 25 ft front entry model with twins is a sweet combination.
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We love the larger bathroom (with window) too.
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Old 11-29-2017, 03:21 PM   #34
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We love the larger bathroom (with window) too.
Isn't the shower floor space smaller in the 25RB than the 25FB? Doesn't the 25FB shower floor have the wheel well cutout area that gives you some more foot space?
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Isn't the shower floor space smaller in the 25RB than the 25FB? Doesn't the 25FB shower floor have the wheel well cutout area that gives you some more foot space?
The RB has a full length bench along the outside wall (over the wheel well). There is plenty space and we don't find that this affects standing as the bench is under the curve of the roof anyway. We do, however, appreciate the extra space (counter, storage and standing) in the lavatory. The window allows natural light and is a surprisingly positive addition to the space.
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Old 02-27-2021, 07:24 AM   #36
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Does the toilet/sink compartment have an exhaust fan and/or AC/electric heat duct with it having the window? I know the 25 FB has both an exhaust fan as well as AC/electric heat duct (plus the furnace heat duct at floor level on the wall/bulkhead, which the 25 RB does have).
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Old 02-27-2021, 10:38 AM   #37
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Does the toilet/sink compartment have an exhaust fan and/or AC/electric heat duct with it having the window? I know the 25 FB has both an exhaust fan as well as AC/electric heat duct (plus the furnace heat duct at floor level on the wall/bulkhead, which the 25 RB does have).
Our 2019 25RBT bathroom has an exhaust fan and two overhead air conditioning / heat pump outlets in the ceiling.
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