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09-10-2002, 12:28 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Standin' on the Top of the Trailer
Standing on the roof!
Sure obviously you can, ~~But Should You Ever~~??
I know I know....Never At Highway Speeds...
But seriously now, it seems that access to the top would on occasion be necessary, right?
Are there certain "marked" areas to stand or kneel or lay? Probably Not!
Are the rivet lines always over a support strut (joist/rafter).
What is the on-center spacing of the ribs,struts? Is this always dead on on all models of Airstream trailers.
Are all support struts equal? i.e. some end over doors and windows, thus not carring load alway to floor I suspect.
Actually I have very little idea of the skeletal system of the trailers. Any idea where there is a good diagram. I am expecting to buy a 1974 Excella-31.
Is a mistep an instant dent? I weigh 222 lbs. naked.
Guaranteed heavier if on roof of anything.
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09-10-2002, 01:09 PM
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Rivet Master
LOST
, Hawaii
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,193
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Sooner or later you have to get on the roof. I have spray foam insulation which substiantially strengthened the skin, but would not walk between ribs (vertical rivet lines). I think in the right place it would kink and be impossible to get out.
The horizontal rivet lines are panel joints, stay off them. The rivet lines that end at windows are still safe, the shape of the rib is what gives it strength even thought it doesn't make it to the floor. There is really no specific on center dimension, it is related to windows, doors, etc. Watch the rivet lines.
Ribs This is a link to my interior before it was insulated. The flat rib above the window I added, the others are Airstream originals. You can see how it curves up, and helps support the ac.
When you get on the roof use a padded board or piece of plywood (no scratching) and span 2 ribs. I measured them at one time, it seems to me the widest was 42" so it is not all that far. Pad your ladder where it will touch, be careful on the curves and you will be fine.
John
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09-10-2002, 02:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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We've been told it's okay on the "flat" panels but not on the curved ends. John's advice of using plywood to disperse the weight is also recommended, using a thick moving-type blanket to protect the surface from scratches. Also, don't do it naked...the sunburn reflecting up from that shiny trailer will kill you!
Shari
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09-10-2002, 05:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,319
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I used the straightest 12' 2X4's I could find then screwed 2X4's appx 3' long perpendicular to them. This made it look like a ladder but missed areas such as the AC and vents. I then stapled pieces of carpeting around the long 2X4 where the ribs of the trailer ran underneath the skin. I was worried that when I used the wood screws that the long 2X4's would raise up causing an edge that would crease the trailer skin. That wasn't a problem because the only contact was on the ribs and the carpeting raised the rest of the 2X4 off the aluminum even while standing on it. Last, I layed sheets of 1/2" plywood on top of the 2X4 frame and slid them around to where I needed to sit or stand. I had scaffolding on one side of the trailer and ran two 2X4's with a plywood plank from there to the plywood sheets. It worked out great. I was afraid if I placed a thick blanket on the skin first and then a sheet of plywood, I would be thrown to one side or the other. The group is right, stay off the ends.
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AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
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09-11-2002, 04:09 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1993 29' Excella
Jonesboro
, Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 125
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Go to Airstreams' web page for a pictorial tour of a trailer under various stages of construction. You can see how the ribs,etc are istalled.
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29 ft Excello 1000
97 Expedition/Hensley Hitch/
McKesh mirrors
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02-04-2009, 10:20 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 29' Sovereign
Savannah
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,478
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Yes sir, that "HEX" was quite a guy..You just had to admire his sense of "humor"..
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New England Unit
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12-05-2009, 03:53 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Land of fruits and nuts
, California
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 307
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reviving a thread. I've been on my roof once to wash it and remove leaves, pine needles, etc. I got up with a step ladder (with the girl holding it so I didn't bust my @$$) and pretty much stayed on all fours over ribs only, or layed down on my belly. Hope I didn't hurt nuthin'
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12-05-2009, 04:14 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1960 24' Tradewind
Riverside
, California
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 189
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I'm 290 and on the roofs quite alot, stay on the rivet lines....no damage yet.
Greg
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12-05-2009, 04:44 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,743
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A "Little Giant" type articulating ladder can have the top section angled so that the end rests near the roof center. I glued carpet with contact cement to the areas on the ladder which come in contact with the skin to avoid scratching.
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Sail on silver girl. Sail on by. Your time has come to shine.
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12-05-2009, 05:59 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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I guess hex fell off the roof in Feb. 2003. That was his last post.
Gene
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12-05-2009, 06:54 PM
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Rivet Master
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,721
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Could it be?
More likely I think he crossed swords with the wrong person.
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12-05-2009, 07:18 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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Pics?
Are there any pictures posted of the devices that have been made for roof work? I am more afraid of losing my balance and denting the aluminum than I am of falling off the roof. If push came to shove, I think I'd jump. Maybe I'll try telling my wife how graceful she is, and how clumsy I am.
I've got it! I have a tower for my ham radio. I'll park the trailer beside it, and lower myself down from the tower. Has anyone tried that under a big tree?
Regards,
Ken
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12-05-2009, 07:35 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,616
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Here is a simple setup made by Zeppelinium. It's a ladder up each side with a pad to protect the skin on the sides of the trailer. Across the top a 2X10 is secured to each end. The two ladders are roped together above and below the trailer.
That's me at the 4CU Restoration Rally working on the hole for my new air conditioner.
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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12-05-2009, 07:41 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
Here is a simple setup made by Zeppelinium. It's a ladder up each side with a pad to protect the skin on the sides of the trailer. Across the top a 2X10 is secured to each end. The two ladders are roped together above and below the trailer.
That's me at the 4CU Restoration Rally working on the hole for my new air conditioner.
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Thanks Richard,
What were you kneeling on?
Ken
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12-05-2009, 08:06 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Which reminds me—I'm thinking of getting a collapsible ladder to take with us, but not sure what's best. I was looking at some at Lowe's. The cheaper one had really bad steps and the more extensive one was pretty heavy. Both were rated 300 lbs. I forget the brand name, but they were those ladders that can be a scaffold, ladder or step ladder. That's all nice, and tempting to get for household use, but for travel, all I want is a ladder that gets small, safe, light and easy to open and close. Any suggestions?
Gene
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12-05-2009, 08:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by w7ts
Are there any pictures posted of the devices that have been made for roof work?
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I've got it! I have a tower for my ham radio. I'll park the trailer beside it, and lower myself down from the tower. Has anyone tried that under a big tree?
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Close...
Shari
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12-05-2009, 08:19 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Close...
Shari
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Shari,
That is cool. Now I just need to buy two painter's trucks.
Thanks,
Ken
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12-05-2009, 08:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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...or use a friend's like we did!
Shari
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12-05-2009, 08:26 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by w7ts
Shari,
That is cool. Now I just need to buy two painter's trucks.
Thanks,
Ken
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Shari,
I just noticed where you live. I guess all I have to do is borrow two painter's trucks.
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12-05-2009, 08:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Hmmm...I bet I know where you could find some ~
Shari
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