Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Airstream Forums > Airstream Restoration, Repair & Parts Forums > Exterior Restoration Forum > Roof
Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search Log in

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-31-2023, 02:32 PM   #1
3 Rivet Member
 
2005 25' Safari
Albuquerque , New Mexico
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 159
Images: 1
Seeking Temporary Roof Repair Advice

I've developed a roof leak and looking for advice on a temporary, on-the-road repair. Can I put a silicone or other hardware store caulking over a crack in the existing caulking (Dicor? Sikaflex?) around the Fantastic Fan?

Background: I've read lots of forum threads over the last couple of years about what a PIA it is to strip and replace roof caulking around penetrations. Consequently, I put it off too long. I'm traveling until late July and I just want to limit the amount of water intrusion/damage until I get home and can do the job right. Are there caulking materials that will adhere to the existing, aged and failing material? How should I clean/prepare the surface for maximum chance of success?
Airhead59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2023, 02:57 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
Boxite's Avatar
 
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin) , Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,981
Sikaflex 715 has worked perfectly for that very purpose for us. Sealed it up, it self levelled…it’s still flexible and does the job.
Sika 221 takes up to 5 days to cure….715 cures in hours and lasts for years if not forever because it stays flexible.
Dicor will eventually dry out and crack.

Follow the directions on the tube. I didn’t even remove the old cracked whatever Airstream put up there… I just pumped Sika 715 on top of it…. it levelled out…and looks like it’s the only thing up there, completely covering and sealing up over the old stuff, 7+ years now.
Boxite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2023, 03:57 PM   #3
"Cloudsplitter"

 
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas , Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airhead59 View Post
I've developed a roof leak and looking for advice on a temporary, on-the-road repair. Can I put a silicone or other hardware store caulking over a crack in the existing caulking (Dicor? Sikaflex?) around the Fantastic Fan?

Background: I've read lots of forum threads over the last couple of years about what a PIA it is to strip and replace roof caulking around penetrations. Consequently, I put it off too long. I'm traveling until late July and I just want to limit the amount of water intrusion/damage until I get home and can do the job right. Are there caulking materials that will adhere to the existing, aged and failing material? How should I clean/prepare the surface for maximum chance of success?
I used this for all our leaking vents & skylights as a 'temporary' emergency fix eight years ago, (before it got popular & Expensive.

Luckily I've still got some for another emergency.

One of Gorilla's offerings may be a suitable substitute.

Bob
🇺🇸
__________________
I’m done with ‘adulting’…Let’s go find Bigfoot.
ROBERT CROSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2023, 04:23 AM   #4
3 Rivet Member
 
2005 25' Safari
Albuquerque , New Mexico
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 159
Images: 1
Thanks for your responses. I will give it a try with Sikaflex 715.
Airhead59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2023, 04:40 AM   #5
Site Team
 
richard5933's Avatar

 
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha , Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 5,568
Images: 5
If there is currently Dicor, it should peel back with a putty knife enough to expose clean material. Or, use mineral spirits on a rag to clean the surface.

After either of those, apply more Dicor self leveling. Best not to mix caulking, even for short term. Also need a clean surface or the new stuff won't adhere. Any RV place will have Dicor or you can order from Amazon for next day delivery.
__________________
Richard
11018
1994 Excella 25 Follow the build on Gertie!
1999 Suburban LS 2500 w/7.4L V8
1974 GMC 4108a - Custom Coach Land Cruiser (Sold)
richard5933 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2023, 05:09 AM   #6
3 Rivet Member
 
2005 25' Safari
Albuquerque , New Mexico
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 159
Images: 1
How can I tell which sealer was used previously, Sikaflex or Dicor?
Airhead59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2023, 06:05 AM   #7
"Cloudsplitter"

 
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas , Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airhead59 View Post
How can I tell which sealer was used previously, Sikaflex or Dicor?
Are we now talking about a 'permanent' fix?

I can't help with Sika or Dicor... 3M 5200 or 4200 fast cure

Happy Sealing...

Bob
🇺🇸
__________________
I’m done with ‘adulting’…Let’s go find Bigfoot.
ROBERT CROSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2023, 06:42 AM   #8
Site Team
 
richard5933's Avatar

 
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha , Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 5,568
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Airhead59 View Post
How can I tell which sealer was used previously, Sikaflex or Dicor?
Dicor self-leveling will have a very smooth appearance and look like it flowed out in all directions as it self leveled. It has a very characteristic look & feel. Here's a photo of what Dicor looks like after it's self-leveled.

I believe that the Sikaflex will look more like traditional caulking, although they might have a self-leveling version as well.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20210621_164916.jpg
Views:	85
Size:	223.9 KB
ID:	432684  
__________________
Richard
11018
1994 Excella 25 Follow the build on Gertie!
1999 Suburban LS 2500 w/7.4L V8
1974 GMC 4108a - Custom Coach Land Cruiser (Sold)
richard5933 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2023, 06:44 AM   #9
Rivet Master
 
DaveP's Avatar

 
2004 28' Classic
Monument , Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
If you use the 3M 4412N tape Bob is suggesting, it is super sticky and require no curing time (and it can be the permanent solution). It can be rained on right after installation. I have used on seams around the skylight with great success without digging out the old caulk. Just remove any loose caulk and give the surface a quick cleaning with alcohol or another solvent. Amazon keeps it in stock for 1 day delivery where I live.
__________________
DaveP
2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
DaveP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2023, 05:59 AM   #10
"Cloudsplitter"

 
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas , Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveP View Post
If you use the 3M 4412N tape Bob is suggesting, it is super sticky and require no curing time (and it can be the permanent solution). It can be rained on right after installation. I have used on seams around the skylight with great success without digging out the old caulk. Just remove any loose caulk and give the surface a quick cleaning with alcohol or another solvent. Amazon keeps it in stock for 1 day delivery where I live.
I bought several 3" wide rolls 6yrs ago at $38ea they are now over $83.

Bob
🇺🇸
__________________
I’m done with ‘adulting’…Let’s go find Bigfoot.
ROBERT CROSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2023, 03:36 PM   #11
3 Rivet Member
 
DonRich7878's Avatar
 
2013 30' Classic
Key West , Florida
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 186
I see a temporary patch as a short term repair performed while in route on the side of the road. This type of repair can effectively be performed with bubble gum, duck tape, trash bags and baling wire. Once you are securely landed and parked, follow Bob’s recommendation…
DonRich7878 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2023, 02:27 PM   #12
3 Rivet Member
 
2005 25' Safari
Albuquerque , New Mexico
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 159
Images: 1
Thanks for the Advice

After reading the recommendations and comments from the Forum, I completed what I hope is not a temporary, but long-term repair of the seal around my Fantastic Fan. I ordered a tube of SikaFlex 715 from Amazon, removed as much of the existing, cracked caulk, cleaned with acetone and re-sealed the fan housing penertation. When I get home I'll need to take stock of the other roof penetratioms and repair those as necessary. Before, during and after photos attached.

Thanks to the forum members above for advice and encouragement to tackle this job.




Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20230607_121539.jpg
Views:	391
Size:	302.3 KB
ID:	432919   Click image for larger version

Name:	20230607_132621.jpg
Views:	406
Size:	255.1 KB
ID:	432920  

Click image for larger version

Name:	20230607_133421.jpg
Views:	403
Size:	260.0 KB
ID:	432921   Click image for larger version

Name:	20230607_133809.jpg
Views:	411
Size:	187.9 KB
ID:	432922  

Airhead59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2023, 04:32 PM   #13
"Cloudsplitter"

 
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas , Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
Images: 1
Same job we did years ago with 3M 4412N.

Bob
🇺🇸
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1FEE6F65-E449-42BF-90EF-2249FFA51823_1_201_a.jpg
Views:	49
Size:	273.8 KB
ID:	432931   Click image for larger version

Name:	5BF72E5F-495C-42F0-853A-F03E7D22EC9F_1_201_a.jpg
Views:	56
Size:	299.7 KB
ID:	432932  

__________________
I’m done with ‘adulting’…Let’s go find Bigfoot.
ROBERT CROSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2023, 07:42 PM   #14
Moderator
 
jcanavera's Avatar

 
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton , Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,408
Images: 143
Send a message via AIM to jcanavera Send a message via Skype™ to jcanavera
My dealer did a strip and seal job on my roof in January. Also replaced two cracked skylights too. Not cheap. About 10-11 hours to do it right. Skylight replacement was another $400. Didn't want to spend that much but after almost 20 years (thankfully inside storage for 18 years) allowed me to get by that long. My age however has gotten to me and I just don't have the ability to deal with heights any more. I'd rather spend the $$ than fall off the roof. We had him booked for the skylights but once they got up there and looked at the caulking around all the roof penetrations, he said he was surprised that the only leaks I had were from those cracks in each skylight. Thankfully the leaks didn't show till my last trip of the year and they came straight down from the skylight frames into the shaft. Just some small drips.

Jack
__________________
Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
jcanavera is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2023, 08:37 PM   #15
Site Team
 
richard5933's Avatar

 
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha , Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 5,568
Images: 5
Looks like this should solve your leak problems. Only thought I have is about the use of a non-self leveling caulking for something like this as it makes it more difficult to keep clean in the future. When I clean off the roof between trips to remove leaves and debris, the Dicor self-leveling never seems to hold as much crud as the places I've used Sikaflex or another non-self leveling caulk.

Lots of people seem to like the Sikaflex products over Dicor - do they make a self-leveling caulk? Or any other company which has a self-leveling product better than the Dicor. I've never had a problem with the Dicor, but am certainly open to better caulking if it's out there.
__________________
Richard
11018
1994 Excella 25 Follow the build on Gertie!
1999 Suburban LS 2500 w/7.4L V8
1974 GMC 4108a - Custom Coach Land Cruiser (Sold)
richard5933 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2023, 07:19 AM   #16
3 Rivet Member
 
2005 25' Safari
Albuquerque , New Mexico
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 159
Images: 1
SikaFlex 715 is labeled "semi-self leveling". The photos I took were immediately after application. I'm planning to take a look today and see if it leveled itself any more.
Airhead59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2023, 08:18 AM   #17
3 Rivet Member
 
2014 30' International
DFW Airport , Texas
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 146
Following
Vlamgat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2023, 11:02 AM   #18
3 Rivet Member
 
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
Foothill Ranch , California
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 161
Emergency Repair (Assuming no wind) / Skylight Recommend

We had a similar issue in the middle of a rainy Oregon trip. Worse yet, we couldn't quite figure out where the leak was coming from (more on that in a second).

I didn't have a ladder and didn't want to try and get on the roof. I went to Home Depot and bought a long roll of plastic tarp (think carpet runner). and literally threw it over the top of the coach where the leak was presenting on the inside. It was lightweight enough to "mold/stick" to the coach exterior, yet had enough weight to be "thrown" easily...and repeatedly, as we used it for over a week, changing camp grounds several times. Obviously, not a permanent solution, but it really worked great!

As for the source - it was our forward skylight...whose plastic structure had less strength than a clear plastic salad container! We discovered a far superior (and surprisingly not-that-expensive) alternative in Maxium skylights. Did the replacement myself (90% from the INSIDE of the coach, and never had to get on the roof!). 1,000% recommend https://maximskylights.com/airstream-skylights/
Mark of SJC is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Seeking advice for mounting to roof Merlintiaga Computers, Internet & Satellite 10 03-06-2023 06:58 AM
Advice on Temporary Tow Tags for New Trailer in Another State? Abj1 On The Road... 22 10-09-2020 11:11 AM
Need advice for temporary insulation for summer TX heat KLK General Repair Forum 8 08-17-2020 09:40 AM
Anyone use liquid roof for fiberglass roof repair? 442 john Airstream Motorhome Forums 4 01-02-2013 01:23 PM
Roof repair advice - hole in roof 1956 vintage casaalumina Roof 5 10-05-2008 10:24 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.