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12-02-2011, 12:53 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Need CAD drawing of the roof contour
I was wondering if someone had a CAD or scale drawing of the roof contour. I am trying to design a scaffold to go on the roof so I can work up there more easily. Someone on the forums had a 3D model of an Airstream.
Perry
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12-02-2011, 01:43 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1989 29' Excella
1979 31' Sovereign
1999 25' Safari
Youngsville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Sep 2006
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When I have to work on the roof I use 2 2x6's on their edge running front to rear spanning at least 3 ribs with 2x4's screwed across the the top. I then place a piece of 1/2" ply on top to complete platform. Using screws makes it easy to remove.
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12-02-2011, 01:53 PM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
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Remember that the roof contours differ over the years. If you want something that actually sits snugly on the roof, yours would differ markedly from the later wide-body trailers, but if you're looking for something that would stand on the ground to either side and clear the trailer, building to the later contour would work for older trailers as well.
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12-02-2011, 02:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heslinhotel
When I have to work on the roof I use 2 2x6's on their edge running front to rear spanning at least 3 ribs with 2x4's screwed across the the top. I then place a piece of 1/2" ply on top to complete platform. Using screws makes it easy to remove.
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This is on the list for a winter project for me. Could you post some pics and maybe elaborate on dimensions? Did you bevel the 2x6 edges? Carpet or other material on roof contact points? etc.......
On a widebody, would vertical 2x4s work better?
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12-02-2011, 04:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1960 33' Custom
Athens
, Georgia
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I you take a look at the Airstream models in Google's Sketchup you'll find a few.
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12-02-2011, 05:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1982 34' Limited
Brunswick
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Check the construction rental places for scaffolding. I am getting them relatively cheap for my jobs and you can configure them to fit whatever you need ( like legos). might be an easy way to accomplish what you are trying to do!
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2000 Excursion V10 4x4
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12-02-2011, 07:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
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or do like the rest of us...prop a ladder on the awning rail...climb up and stand on the rivet lines
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12-02-2011, 07:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by c_lewis77
Check the construction rental places for scaffolding. I am getting them relatively cheap for my jobs and you can configure them to fit whatever you need ( like legos). might be an easy way to accomplish what you are trying to do!
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Yeah, if I only had room in suburbia....one day.....
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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12-02-2011, 08:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Ok Maybe Scaffolding was the wrong word. How about a platform that will allow me to work and move around up there without killing my knees, back, and torn ligament in my foot. I will work on a drawing and show everyone what I have in mind. I am going to have to replace the AC soon so I better get comfortable.
Perry
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12-02-2011, 08:47 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
Ok Maybe Scaffolding was the wrong word. How about a platform that will allow me to work and move around up there without killing my knees, back, and torn ligament in my foot. I will work on a drawing and show everyone what I have in mind. I am going to have to replace the AC soon so I better get comfortable.
Perry
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I know exactly what you mean, a platform which fits the curvature of the roof and is large enough to move around to relieve those joints without sticking some boney part through the soft aluminum between the ribs while trying to hoist an air conditioner around......or whatever.....
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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12-02-2011, 09:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
Ok Maybe Scaffolding was the wrong word. How about a platform that will allow me to work and move around up there without killing my knees, back, and torn ligament in my foot. I will work on a drawing and show everyone what I have in mind. I am going to have to replace the AC soon so I better get comfortable.
Perry
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Ya might be overthinkin' this...
I suspect you will spend more time riggin some sort of roof platform than is required to replace the AC unit.
On edit...you have probably already spent more time on this thread than is required to do the swap!
A couple of wire clips from inside, 4 bolts and off it comes. I probably spent spent less that :10 on the roof during my install.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f205...tml#post839907
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12-02-2011, 09:57 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Every dealers mechanics, as well as the factories, walk on any Airstream or Argosy roofs, every day.
I have been doing it for over 46 years, without ever having or causing any problems, and so have all my mechanics.
DO NOT however, walk forward or rearward of the awning rail. If you do, you will damage some segments.
To make a platform, is a waste of time, a waste of money, a waste of talent, and is totally unnecessary.
In spite of the holidays, just don't do a polka or any other kind of dance while on the roof.
Wear rubber soled shoes, and DO NOT ever attempt to get on the roof, if it's wet in any way.
Lean a ladder against a side window drip rail, thats cushioned with a towel.
Climb the ladder, grab ahold of the awning if one is there, and do whatever it is that you need to check or repair.
Andy
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12-03-2011, 08:19 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Well Andy that may work fine for skinny folks. I am just looking for a way to be able to move around and stay comfortable. If I were still in my 30's and not weighing 260lbs with knee, foot, and back problems I would agree with you. I can and have gotten up there but it is not something I want to do for long periods of time.
Perry
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12-03-2011, 08:30 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
Well Andy that may work fine for skinny folks. I am just looking for a way to be able to move around and stay comfortable. If I were still in my 30's and not weighing 260lbs with knee, foot, and back problems I would agree with you. I can and have gotten up there but it is not something I want to do for long periods of time.
Perry
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Perry.
Over 40 years ago, the Ohio factory had 30 adult men, all stand on the roof of a 30 foot Airstream, all at the same time, to show it's strength.
Result??
No damage.
Great advertising.
I understand your concern, however, our shop foreman weighs a little more than you do.
Andy
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12-03-2011, 08:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
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This thread discusses the same topic and has links to other discussions. Shari's photo in post 22 shows a viable option; you could do the same with rented scaffold. I might do something like that if I was installing an air conditioner. The factory Service Center lifts air conditioners to the roof with a forklift -- but the worker installing it is standing on the roof.
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12-03-2011, 01:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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My case for a platform is not for walking around. It's for kneeling and sitting when I have time consuming service to do, like removing sealer and resealing, Replacing skylights, etc.
I've walked around for the little quick jobs just fine by keeping my skinny feet on the rivet lines. I want to displace multiple pressure points of crawling around over a large area. Also, it's hard to keep my broad butt on the rivet lines!
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12-03-2011, 01:49 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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The rivet line, you'll notice, is not mentioned by Andy. It's a non-starter.
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12-03-2011, 02:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Whatever....I just don't like being off the ribs and stringers.
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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12-03-2011, 02:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 22' Safari
Buda
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 612
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Here is my solution for us inexperienced roof climbers. I bought a 9 step warehouse ladder that originally was used by Best Buy. I am now making a little cantilever (sp) platform to put my belly on as I work on top of my 68 safari, which is more rounded that the newer models. I first tried the ladder and 2x4, but it did not put me in a good position to step on top, maybe I'm just scared of falling off?
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12-03-2011, 02:48 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari
saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 410
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I have a piece of dense styrofoam about 2 x 4 ' that I lay up where I might be working. Its fairly comfortable when on a knee and is easy to handle.
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