 |
09-28-2012, 03:22 PM
|
#1
|
Rivet Master 
1972 Argosy 20
Snoqualmie
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 503
|
Belly Pan issue
I have a 73 Argosy I just purchased and am beginning to start some repairs. The first issue is that the rivets holding the belly pan in place have evidently eaten away the belly pan in spots, and the pan is flopping loose in places. I don't want to take the whole thing off. Since the holes around the former rivet heads are up to 1/2" in diameter, re-riveting won't do much good. I'm thinking of taking 1-1/2" wide strips of plastic or fiberglass and placing the strips over the rivets and non-rivets, effectively sandwiching the riveted areas between the plastic and the frame. Suggestions?
I think I've attached an image of the pan.
|
|
|
09-28-2012, 03:56 PM
|
#2
|
Rivet Master 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
|
If your not doing more work and looking inside....just drill new holes and re rivet. You don't need to use the old spots.
__________________
"If it can't be reduced, reused, repaired, rebuilt, refurbished, refinished, resold, recycled or composted
then it should be restricted, redesigned or removed from production."
|
|
|
09-28-2012, 03:59 PM
|
#3
|
Rivet Master 

1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,038
|
Or you can get rivets with big "heads", essentially a rivet with a washer, or use rivets and washers...
Kay
|
|
|
09-28-2012, 04:32 PM
|
#4
|
Rivet Master 
1972 Argosy 20
Snoqualmie
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 503
|
That was quick! I've never worked with rivets, does it take a special tool and special rivets? Could I use washer head screws instead?
Thanks so much for the input
|
|
|
09-28-2012, 05:51 PM
|
#5
|
Rivet Master 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
|
Don't ever use screws on a belly pan. Guaranteed to vibrate out.
__________________
"If it can't be reduced, reused, repaired, rebuilt, refurbished, refinished, resold, recycled or composted
then it should be restricted, redesigned or removed from production."
|
|
|
09-28-2012, 05:57 PM
|
#6
|
Rivet Master 
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,149
|
Just get some scrap aluminum and make some 2"x2" squares. All you need to do is drill some holes in them and use them as big washers.
If you really care about the trailer take the skins off and remove all the stinky wet pink insulation. This stuff will rot the frame if it has not already done so. If you want a quick fix then do the above.
Perry
|
|
|
09-28-2012, 08:17 PM
|
#7
|
Rivet Master 
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,637
|
These are specifically made for belly pan attachment:
Large Flange Rivets
You can use a regular rivet gun with them. EASY!
__________________
Becky
1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
|
|
|
09-28-2012, 09:09 PM
|
#8
|
Rivet Master 

1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,038
|
Yes, those are the rivets we used to attach our belly pan! (didn't know the name).
Kay
|
|
|
09-28-2012, 09:13 PM
|
#9
|
Rivet Master 

1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,038
|
Oh, and yes you will need a rivet gun to attach rivets. Pneumatic is easier to use on a belly pan (when you're laying on your back on the ground) than manual, but either will work.
Kay
|
|
|
09-29-2012, 06:36 AM
|
#10
|
Rivet Master 
2009 27' FB Flying Cloud
1982 31' International
1991 35' Airstream 350
Jay
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,707
|
I used some 3/4 wide flat alum stock to make lath strips. I riveted them along the cross members on the outer surface of the belly pan.
The flat stock is available at any lumber yard......
JD
__________________
Jeff & Cindy
'09 27FB Flying Cloud;'82 31 International
'91 350 LE MH; '21 Interstate 24GT
|
|
|
10-05-2012, 05:36 PM
|
#11
|
Rivet Master 
1972 Argosy 20
Snoqualmie
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 503
|
I've been doing some research on this issue and need to question the use of rivets vs self tapping screws. Are screws really subject to falling out due to vibration? My experience with self tappers into steel is that once installed they provide a very positive and seemingly lasting connection. I can certainly understand using aluminum rivets to attach to the aluminum frame on the body, but it seems to me that if vibration was really an the issue, a simple drop of loctite would take care of the problem. What other reasons are there to use rivets to re-attach the belly pan?
|
|
|
10-05-2012, 06:02 PM
|
#12
|
Rivet Master 
1973 27' Overlander
Currently Looking...
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,062
|
A wide-flange rivet will remain in place and clamped until there is no longer steel to hold it or until the aluminum sheet disintegrates around the flange even if there is hundreds of hours of vibrations & shocks.
__________________
The days are short and the night is long and the stars go tumbling by.. . D. Witte
|
|
|
 |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|

Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|