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Old 10-22-2007, 01:24 PM   #1
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Steps will not stay put

When I step upon the fold out step's they will not stay put in their nothes. They will give to either side. If I replace the bolts that go into the main body will that solve my problem? Thanks
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:36 PM   #2
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Rivet Steps

I saw this solution at the Branson rally.
The top has a T sweated on and the bottom has one with a slot to fit over the back of the step.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/atta...4&d=1192908130

I haven’t made my own yet, but plan to. My steps are behaving like yours.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:11 PM   #3
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When I step upon the fold out step's they will not stay put in their nothes. They will give to either side. If I replace the bolts that go into the main body will that solve my problem? Thanks
The notches are worn out in the two footstep outriggers.

You can weld steel in the grooves and then grind it out to fit, or, you can replace the outriggers.

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Old 10-22-2007, 02:33 PM   #4
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You can weld steel in the grooves and then grind it out to fit, or, you can replace the outriggers.
This is what I'll be doing to mine... when I get there.

It's alway good when Inland Andy confirms my plans... thanks Andy!
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Old 10-27-2007, 07:56 AM   #5
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Thanks for all your help.
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:09 AM   #6
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So??

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I saw this solution at the Branson rally.
The top has a T sweated on and the bottom has one with a slot to fit over the back of the step.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/atta...4&d=1192908130

I havenít made my own yet, but plan to. My steps are behaving like yours.
As I see it..
The idea is to just place the T in place by friction?? KEWL..
Thanks for sharing the photo again...
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:16 AM   #7
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As I see it..
The idea is to just place the T in place by friction?? KEWL..
Thanks for sharing the photo again...
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Hi 53FC,

Thatís right. He told me to make them slightly long so you have to lift the step to slip the top in and ease them down solidly. They worked very well. I also saw a commercially made similar single T adjustable product, but the homemade ones appeared superior. By making them the exact length needed, they can never be out of adjustment. The cost is just 4 Ts and a few feet of tube.
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:24 AM   #8
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Aha..
Thanks for the additional tip, I can see how that would be..
My steps are not bothering me just yet.
It's always good to have the know how..
And, another little project to add...
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Old 10-27-2007, 03:29 PM   #9
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I have the same problem. Are the replacement brackets readily available at a reasonable cost - i.e. - cheap enough to make jury-rigging not worthwhile?
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Old 10-27-2007, 04:01 PM   #10
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I have the same problem. Are the replacement brackets readily available at a reasonable cost - i.e. - cheap enough to make jury-rigging not worthwhile?
Good question. I created a detailed reply concerning home made braces vs. aftermarket ones. Only when I was about to post the reply did I realize that you were talking about solving the problem in the first place.

I looked online for the replacement brackets but came up dry so far. Does anyone know of a source for these?
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Old 10-27-2007, 04:57 PM   #11
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I looked online for the replacement brackets but came up dry so far. Does anyone know of a source for these?
Elkhart Tool makes a unit for total replacement. Check out unit #424
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Old 10-27-2007, 06:10 PM   #12
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This is what I'll be doing to mine... when I get there.

It's alway good when Inland Andy confirms my plans... thanks Andy!

You can get the step outriggers at any Airstream dealer. I just replaced mine this summer. They are $16.00 to $18.00 depending on what dealer you get them from.

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Old 10-27-2007, 08:22 PM   #13
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Double Steps

I noticed in the photo of the brass tubing tool that it is attached to a two step set. Our AS has the single step type and we would love to get double steps. Wife just had a total knee replacement a couple of months ago and my knees are wearing down fast. Does Airstream make a dual set that will fit a '69 Sovereign? or do you have to purchase an aftermarket one like the elkhart tool ones?
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:11 AM   #14
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I noticed in the photo of the brass tubing tool that it is attached to a two step set. Our AS has the single step type and we would love to get double steps. Wife just had a total knee replacement a couple of months ago and my knees are wearing down fast. Does Airstream make a dual set that will fit a '69 Sovereign? or do you have to purchase an aftermarket one like the elkhart tool ones?
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Airstreams double aluminum footstep will fit your 69, but you must change the footstep outriggers and add a release bracket at the bottom of the entrance door.

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Old 10-28-2007, 09:30 AM   #15
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Elkhart Tool makes a unit for total replacement. Check out unit #424
Hi Steve,

Thanks for the link. I didnít see anything at ETD that looked like the steps on my Airstream, though. I would rather repair mine or even just use the braces than adapt what I saw there.

I do appreciate the effort.
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:48 AM   #16
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Hi Steve,

Thanks for the link. I didnít see anything at ETD that looked like the steps on my Airstream, though. I would rather repair mine or even just use the braces than adapt what I saw there.

I do appreciate the effort.
I agree that they aren't the same...actually the slides are just opposite of the original...but they are the only aftermarket steps that achieve the flush look when closed.

My plan is to repair the original unit already installed on mine.

Good luck finding a solution that works for you.
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Airstreams double aluminum footstep will fit your 69, but you must change the footstep outriggers and add a release bracket at the bottom of the entrance door.
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A couple of questions. About how much would the double steps cost? and the installation procedure doesn't sound like a do it yourself job, correct?
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:58 PM   #18
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A couple of questions. About how much would the double steps cost? and the installation procedure doesn't sound like a do it yourself job, correct?
thanks, bill b.
If you can rivet and weld, it's a piece of cake.

The double aluminum footsteps with the release latch, anti-skid pads and two outriggers cost way over $500.00.

I am not at the office, so I cannot accurately quote.

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Word of Warning

If you have the double steps, do not use them without some type of brace to take the force off of the system. I have the brace made by an airstreamer and usually used it whenever we would think about it. It was a sloppy fit and there was a little movement which would cause a slight jerking motion as you put full weight on it. Bottom line, didn't use it for a couple years and now one of my side brackets has rounded out and it is not a simple job to repair.

I plan to take the trailer to a good welder and have him build up the track just as Andy suggests. Then it will be a matter of filing the curve back into the track so it will hold.

These steps can be dangerous if you are not aware.
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