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03-24-2003, 08:49 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1982 31' Excella
Oldsmar
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 13
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steps
Where can we purchase a double entry step for our AS?
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03-24-2003, 03:59 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,408
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Linda,
I'm not sure if the '97 Safari is the same style as my '01 but if it is, Airstream does not offer a double step version. Check out this thread and you will find a post from a fellow from Ontario Canada who had his dealer change out his single to a Classic double step. Note that it took some metal cutting and welding. I inquired at Jackson Center and was told that they couldn't (or wouldn't) do it.
http://www.airforums.com/forum...=&threadid=326
Regards,
Jack
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STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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03-24-2003, 06:31 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs
, Florida
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 2,311
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Step Picture
Is this what you folks are talking about? I took this picture at the factory in November. Guide told us it was a $900 option. It looks just like the one on my AS, but the bottom step is missing. It would be nice to have the bottom step, because I gained a couple inches in height, since the axle replacement.
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2003 GMC 2500HD 4X4 D/A Ext. Cab
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Air # 283
WBCCI 1350
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03-24-2003, 07:03 PM
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Just a member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Lutz
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,549
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Pick,
The bottom step can be added, but get the checkbook out!
If you can get one from a boneyard you will have more spare cash for the next repair/upgrade.
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WBCCI #5501 AIR # 49
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1978 Argosy 28 foot Motorhome
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. -- Plato
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03-24-2003, 08:15 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 544
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I did not realise we were sitting on a gold mine.
We do not have ONE but TWO of those, on our 1971 and 1974.
We rarely use them. When open all the way, it feels wobbly, there is too much flex.
So we solved the problem on the 71, which has been grounded 100% for 6 years anyway.
A bit bulky for traveling, and I guess it does not match the "Airstream Vintage look"
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03-24-2003, 08:17 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,408
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Pick,
I assume you took this picture of a Safari. Its good to know they are listening. I think that $900 is pretty excessive. Almost like they are trying to disuade you from adding this. This must be new for 2003 because it wasn't available when I checked in August 2001 when the 2002 models were being produced.
I don't believe that that stair as shown in your picture is a bolt on replacement. Probably why it costs so much.
Jack
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STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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03-25-2003, 10:49 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Footstep
Airstream's price on the "double footstep" is $730.35.
A long way from $900.00.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
airstreamcandy.com
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03-25-2003, 10:53 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 544
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Quote:
Airstream's price on the "double footstep" is $730.35.
A long way from $900.00.
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I take this was humor?
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03-25-2003, 11:53 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs
, Florida
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 2,311
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Once again....
Geez! We must of had a lousy tour guide. That guy appears to be a fountain of mis-information. The price of $900 is what the tour guide told us. Now, I am wondering if I can believe anything the guy said period.
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03-25-2003, 12:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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$730 vs $900
May have included a couple of hours for installation....
Shari
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03-25-2003, 01:38 PM
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Rivet Master
LOST
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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I can't imagine a welding shop that wouldn't jump on it for $200, you have a picture for them to see and could get the drop you wanted.
If it doesn't have to be attached, how about this. I thought another forum member had one and was happy with it.
John
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03-25-2003, 02:28 PM
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Moderator
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,408
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Here's what I'm using and it easily fits folded in the rear Safari storage compartment.
http://www.campingworld.com/browse/s...3&skunum=13291
Jack
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AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500
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03-25-2003, 03:06 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1999 25' Safari
Edina
, Minnesota
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 183
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I checked on the double aluminum step as well. I spoke extensively with A/S and the step manufacturer.
It can't be easily done on a late model Safari and, by the time you are done, with labor rates between $60 and $80/ hour at an A/S dealer, it is close to $1K, give or take a few bucks. I took a pass.
Jace
P.S. In the process, I found the manufacturer of the steel Safari steps and asked them about thier two-step steel steps that they make for other RV firms. They do not easily fit either as a replacement.
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2021 GMC Sierra 1500 Denali Diesel
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03-25-2003, 04:22 PM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Separate step
Both of the free-standing steps noted above would work great. I used a separate step of this general type on my old Scamp 5th-wheel which had no built-in step.
One thing to think about is that the further the steps protrude from the trailer, the more the leverage there is and the more trailer shake you are going to get whenever someone heavy enters. A separate step does away with that problem.
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03-25-2003, 05:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Steps
I have the double step but rarely use it. First picture shows the step I purchased from Camping World.
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'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
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Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
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03-25-2003, 05:09 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
, Tennessee
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Second picture shows steps extended next to purchased aluminum step. It's not that far of a reach for me. Also, if I used the double step more, I would buy one of those devices sold through CW that you place under the step for more support and less rocking of the trailer.
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AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
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03-25-2003, 05:45 PM
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Still Working
1994 36' Classic 36
North Charleston
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2002
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been there done that
check this thread, total cost 150 dollars including shipping.
http://www.airforums.com/forum...ep+replacement
piece of cake!
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03-25-2003, 08:27 PM
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Rivet Master
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 949
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I've got the double factory step on my Overlander and love it!,
After spending hours having to do adapt a generic step from Camping World on my Minuet it was great to get the Overlander with a step already there. It does have a bit of too much flex whenever I use the second step but up till now I hardly even flip the second step out.
Funny, how most who have it don't use it and even go through the trouble of using a separate step and those who don't have it, like the Safari owners, want it? Grass is always greener, , , huh?
Chas
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03-25-2003, 08:30 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1999 25' Safari
Edina
, Minnesota
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Ken,
Great photos on the other thread. What I was told was that the outriggers on the frame of the late model Safaris are not the same as the current or earlier Classic models, therfore, the steps like yours require significant frame member modification.
Sounded like too much metal work, so I stopped the investigation. I'd love to find out a definitive answer though!
Jace
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