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Old 02-14-2015, 01:11 PM   #1
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Peeling plasticoat?

Our 1970 Safari seems to have her plasticoat coming off ...i think. We do not want to go the full polish route but would like to restore her looks a bit. The initial thought was to strip all the plasticoat off - apply the White Diamond polish seen on the Airstream website and reapply the plasticoat.
Does this sound right....?
Or is it easier to 'touch up' plasticoat where it is seems to be absent?
Not 100% sure where the Walbernize comes in process...after the reapplication of the plasticoat we are thinking.
What would happen if we took off the plasticoat and then just walbernized the heck out of her?
all thoughts/guidance much appreciated!
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Old 03-14-2015, 11:27 PM   #2
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The walbernizer is just essentially a wax. It would be applied after fixing the clear coat. If you do attempt to do a patch repair on your failing area of finish without striping her entirely keep us all posted to how it works for you and what methods and products you use. I have a small area on mine starting to fail and I am wondering what to do as well.
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Old 03-14-2015, 11:56 PM   #3
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Your 45 year old plasticoat is essentially shot. There is no easy repair short of stripping it off totally and having it re done. Cost is generally in the range of $100 a foot of trailer length or more.

It is common to strip the old plasticoat and polish the trailer, but that too is a lot of work and it needs constant maintenance after done.

Sorry, just nothing easy that can be done. Touch Up will not work, and you need far more than touch up from the photos you posted.
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Old 03-15-2015, 12:14 AM   #4
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There is always paint......

Paint would fix the dents and the plasticote, and last at least ten years. (Good paint will)


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Old 03-15-2015, 12:17 AM   #5
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My trailer has some paint and some aluminum, when I get finished it will have even more paint and less aluminum to polish.... Click image for larger version

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I pretty much detest polishing.


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Old 03-16-2015, 04:46 PM   #6
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The roof paint on my 1997 legend is failing and we see the residue on the sides of the trailer. How should I refinish it?
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Old 03-16-2015, 05:15 PM   #7
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It's pretty well a 'strip and re-coat' job.
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Old 03-16-2015, 05:40 PM   #8
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I'm sitting here knocking on wood because the plasti-coat on my '90 25' Excella is intact so far. I know it's days are numbered and I'm trying to preserve things as long as possible. It's stored inside in the winter and I buff it and apply Liquid Glass twice a year. But I have a little slush fund set aside for that inevitable time.

I'm aware that it's necessary to remove the plasti-coat entirely and from what I'ver read that's not too time consuming, difficult or expensive (fascinated by the shop in Santa Barbara that gets in off in virtually one intact sheet). What I'm wondering about is what to do after the plasti-coat is removed. I'm not sold on the highly polished look and the work and/or expense required to achieve - and maintain it. What other options are there? Would a clear coat similar to what is used on automobiles in their two stage process work? I have some great painters after being involved with Porsche restorations for so long.

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Old 03-16-2015, 08:35 PM   #9
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I had investigated re clear coating an Airstream, but all I have read indicates that automotive clear coat will not stay on very well and/or will discolor rather quickly.

I mean to shoot a test panel one day and leave it in the sun and weather so I can see for myself...

Just haven't done it yet...


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Old 03-25-2015, 06:19 PM   #10
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If you want to look at another option, call "Nyalic" tec service. Phone listed on Internet. They have one or two Airstreams re-clear coated with their product. Their clear coat is a polymer, made to cover painted metal, bare aluminum, etc. I use it as a touch up on my 2012.


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Old 03-25-2015, 07:06 PM   #11
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That Nyalic gives me some hope that Liquid Glass might be pretty effective in preserving plasti-coat. It's an acryllic polymer and builds up with subsequent applications. I'm putting it on every six months and hoping for the best. So far so good.

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Old 03-25-2015, 07:28 PM   #12
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Our 1984 310 motorhome looked kinda like your trailer when we got it. I had a guy strip all off the remaining clear coat off, and left it at that. Not pretty, not shiny, but it looks much better.
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Old 04-02-2015, 07:28 AM   #13
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Hey John,
I also have a 1990 excella, but a 29ft model. The clear on mine is also in pretty good shape, but this winter seems to have taken a toll. It always had some fade under the awning and on the endcaps, but now that spring is here the fade is way lower especially on the curbside endcaps, which is odd, since they get very little sun. I have always used starbrite marine polish, because it has uv protection and Teflon and seems to last a long time, I use it on my cars also. Last year I also started using formula 303 especially for a quick touch up on the faded spots, after washing, figuring more uv protection cant hurt, now I don't know if that helps or not, Im thinking not.

How do you apply Nyalic, and I guess you isolate the panel [tape it off] when you use it?
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Jeepjunk...

I mentioned that I was encouraged by Nyalic because it's a clearcoat polymer, which is what Liquid Glass is - I'm staying with Liquid Glass. I gob it on around the seams because I think it might also help seal things a bit. I heard the other day that it is being used by several Ferrari shops, a pretty strong endorsement.

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Old 05-05-2015, 08:49 PM   #15
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Hey John,
I also have a 1990 excella, but a 29ft model. The clear on mine is also in pretty good shape, but this winter seems to have taken a toll. It always had some fade under the awning and on the endcaps, but now that spring is here the fade is way lower especially on the curbside endcaps, which is odd, since they get very little sun. I have always used starbrite marine polish, because it has uv protection and Teflon and seems to last a long time, I use it on my cars also. Last year I also started using formula 303 especially for a quick touch up on the faded spots, after washing, figuring more uv protection cant hurt, now I don't know if that helps or not, Im thinking not.

How do you apply Nyalic, and I guess you isolate the panel [tape it off] when you use it?

Jeep, just saw your post question. Nyalic is a clear coat, so think of it like any clear coat, acrylic, etc. you can spray it or brush it on. If you are going to do a larger area, you would need to tape off and proceed just like you were spray painting. Small areas can be done by brush. Click image for larger version

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The door hinge was brushed on, the tail light casting was taped off and sprayed. I've sprayed larger areas of the skin panels and the Nyalic feathers in nicely there also.
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I have Nyalic in spray.. you need to prepare the surface before application so it is uniform. I had some older oxidation, but could not 'buff' it all out.. without doing the whole AS....
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Old 05-06-2015, 10:21 AM   #17
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Years ago, I think I saw a photo (on AirForums) of an Airstream that was painted black. While this color wouldn't work in Arizona, white sounds interesting (much cooler than black or bare aluminum).

Are there any members who have painted their Airstreams, or is this taboo?
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