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Old 05-01-2005, 06:25 PM   #1
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'71 Rock Guard install help.

Can someone shoot me a picture of the top bracket location and orientation for the rock guard?

I need to know about the top rail that is mounted over the front window.

Also, are these made of lexan? I have a crack I need to repair before I put it on.

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Mine is made of Lexan, as far as I can tell. Does this pic help?
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we repaired rickstream's front window frame in this post.

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ad.php?t=10794

it has some close ups of the holes where the rock guard is installed. hope it helps!

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My rock guard rail is mounted about 1/4" above the window frame. My pet peeve is that my rail is about 2" shorter than I think it should be, it dumps the water directly on top of the rails that hold the front window to the wing windows. I have packed the top of mine full of vulkem in hopes of stopping the leak(s) from that area. I love the look of the rock guard and the fact it can be used as a form of sun shade for the front windows.

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Thanks for the info guys.

The upper rail has a channel the the rock guard slides into. I'm trying to figure out if the channel goes up or down.

My trailer already had a rail on it with the channel up. But it looks to me like it should go down. Very strange that it would be on the wrong way. The original appears to be screwed into the front window frame. If I turn it over it would just be screwed into the aluminum panels.

Aaron, the original railing I have is about 3 inches longer than the new one that came with the rock gaurd. So I'll be using the original one.

balrgn, that looks sweet. Hope mine looks half as good.

It's a used one with a 4" crack in it. I am hoping to drill out the end of the crack. Then glue a piece of lexan to the back of it for support.

But I am open to repair ideas!
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might try calling around to your local glass shops and see what they have available. they may have some leftovers that are large enough to replace the whole thing.

maybe you can get lucky and purchase the end of a sheet for cheap!

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do you mean they could replace the whole lexan piece including the curved ends?

We have Tap Plastics shop near here. Maybe they could do it.

I tried to leave them my wrap window frames and have them cut lexan windows for them. They could not handle the job after a few weeks and I had to get my money back and do it myself
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do you mean they could replace the whole lexan piece including the curved ends?
yeah thats what i was thinking, you could use the old one as a pattern. i don't know about yours, but my lexan sections are held in with rubber splines inserted between the frame and the lexan. like you would use on a window screen. easy to remove.

back when i used to abuse japanese motorcycles regularly i replaced many windscreens with lexan purchased locally.

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yeah thats what i was thinking, you could use the old one as a pattern. i don't know about yours, but my lexan sections are held in with rubber splines inserted between the frame and the lexan. like you would use on a window screen. easy to remove.
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Mine looks like there is a aluminum channel that the lexan sits in. The frame is in two halves that are riveted together and sealed with sealent of some kind. The lexan is quite thin like 3/32. So the curve is held in place by the aluminum frame.

It's quite possible that I could get a sheet of lexan and do this myself. I'm going to look into it further. Depending on the cost of a 79"x27" peice of lexan I may try it.

Thanks for the idea.
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Mine looks like there is a aluminum channel that the lexan sits in. The frame is in two halves that are riveted together and sealed with sealent of some kind. The lexan is quite thin like 3/32. So the curve is held in place by the aluminum frame.

It's quite possible that I could get a sheet of lexan and do this myself. I'm going to look into it further. Depending on the cost of a 79"x27" peice of lexan I may try it.

Thanks for the idea.
I installed a Rock Guard two years ago and had to dismantle and narrow the center section because our Minuet is 6" narrower than a standard. The one I received from Airstream used a plastic spline to seal in the plastic in the frame, it appears to be the same spline used in screen doors. I don't know why they use different sealing methods but it seems to work. I'll bet that the stuff you found is butyl rubber sealant That is the sealant that is used on car and truck windows. You should be able to get it at Lowes or the like. If not a window shop should have it.
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I installed a Rock Guard two years ago and had to dismantle and narrow the center section because our Minuet is 6" narrower than a standard. The one I received from Airstream used a plastic spline to seal in the plastic in the frame, it appears to be the same spline used in screen doors. I don't know why they use different sealing methods but it seems to work. I'll bet that the stuff you found is butyl rubber sealant That is the sealant that is used on car and truck windows. You should be able to get it at Lowes or the like. If not a window shop should have it.
Gary knows his stuff about the rock guard thing.
I am going to use his step-by-step procedure to install mine.
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If you pull the spline does the plexiglass come out w/o dismanteling the frame?

Also, do you know which way the upper channel goes that the rock guard slides into. Open end up or down?

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I installed a Rock Guard two years ago and had to dismantle and narrow the center section because our Minuet is 6" narrower than a standard. The one I received from Airstream used a plastic spline to seal in the plastic in the frame, it appears to be the same spline used in screen doors. I don't know why they use different sealing methods but it seems to work. I'll bet that the stuff you found is butyl rubber sealant That is the sealant that is used on car and truck windows. You should be able to get it at Lowes or the like. If not a window shop should have it.
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Also, do you know which way the upper channel goes that the rock guard slides into. Open end up or down?
Tim,

Does your original track look like the first picture in this post?

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ad.php?t=15315

This is what was on my '71 Tradewind. I think it was for the original clear rockguard. When we installed the new rockguard we removed this track and filled the holes.

The new hinge track is oriented in the same position shown in the third picture - open end down. We installed it with out separating the two halves of the hinge.

Started out by drilling holes in the hinge piece for the mounting rivets. Placed a bead of Vulkem on the backside of the hinge. Then we aligned the rockguard top-to-bottom and as close as we could left-to-right. Drilled a hole for the center rivet (through the existing hole in the upper hinge piece) and riveted it in place. Rechecked the alignment and finished the drilling and riveting.

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On our '71 Safari, the rock guard cracked also. About eight inches up from the bottom. I flexed the lense from the back just a little and trickled Super Glue in the crack and then removed the pressure from the back to close the gap.. Worked fine.
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If you pull the spline does the plexiglass come out w/o dismanteling the frame?

Also, do you know which way the upper channel goes that the rock guard slides into. Open end up or down?

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No you still have to dismantel the frame, a couple of pop rivets and it's not too bad, you would have to pry gentley to get it apart.
I not sure what your'e asking about the upper channel.
My lexan is in a U-channel which makes up the frame. Then that is mounted to a hinge which is kind of weird, frame side up, trailer side down.
Not sure if that helps.
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Yes! That's the answer. Thanks.

So, like you I have to remove the original hinge and hang the new one with the open end down.

Thanks!

BTW- I checked the cost of just getting a piece of solar gray lexan the size I needed and was quoted $139. I'd still have to shape it and mount it myself.

So I decided against getting new lexan for now. I cleaned it up and now I believe that it was fairly new because the aluminum is very clean and the rubber gasket looks perfect.

I think they cracked it when they mounted the hold down clamp near the bottom. That is where the crack orginates and runs up diagonal for about 6 inches. I purchased some black plastic and acyrlic cement and glued a small patch on the back.

After I get it installed I may put my AIR sticker over the crack


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Does your original track look like the first picture in this post?

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ad.php?t=15315

This is what was on my '71 Tradewind. I think it was for the original clear rockguard. When we installed the new rockguard we removed this track and filled the holes.

The new hinge track is oriented in the same position shown in the third picture - open end down. We installed it with out separating the two halves of the hinge.

Started out by drilling holes in the hinge piece for the mounting rivets. Placed a bead of Vulkem on the backside of the hinge. Then we aligned the rockguard top-to-bottom and as close as we could left-to-right. Drilled a hole for the center rivet (through the existing hole in the upper hinge piece) and riveted it in place. Rechecked the alignment and finished the drilling and riveting.

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I need the location of the triangle bracket on the divider bar between the wrap and center windows. It looks like it should go about 4 inches from the top.

Could someone check this measurement for me please?

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Tim,

The measurements are using the original "triangle brackets" that I reused with my new rockguard. Obviously very carefully measured! Measurements are from the top or bottom to the edge of the bracket.

Top
L - 5.75
R - 5.5

Bottom
L - 17.75
R - 18

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Thanks Mark! That's just what I needed to get 'er done

Adding the rock guard sure does make a big difference in the apperance. As soon as I finished I had a neigbor come by and said it makes it look more modern. I guess thats a compliment.

Here are some photos. The last one shows how the rubber handle attaches. It appears to be different from all the others I have seen. The brackets were already on so I am just going to leave it.

Thanks everyone for their help. I think this is going to be a nice improvement.
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Your rock guard looks just like my installation of a rock guard. I bought it from Inland RV. It had good instructions. Went on easy with rivets. It does save the front windows.
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