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Old 12-02-2009, 06:53 PM   #61
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Well, Wally don't know what Airstream you saw but it certainly wasn't a 23FB Flying Cloud. While it is true that the shower/sink/toilet are all in the same room the shower is completely enclosed and the only way you could get the toilet wet while taking a shower is to open the shower door and hold the shower head outside directed at the toilet. As for the price everything Airstream makes is over priced considering the current quality.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:20 PM   #62
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How does well does the countertop space work out with the 23FB?

Not that we're in any sort of hurry to upgrade (we'd wait to buy used a while down the road), but a 23FB gives us what we want - a free-standing bed, a dinette, and the narrow-body design.

Kinda worried though that the countertop looks small; we're enamored with the 20' Safari SE/Flying Cloud for that (and its smaller bathroom tucked in the corner), but you give up the larger walk-around bed...

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Old 12-02-2009, 07:35 PM   #63
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First of all the bed is only walkaround in theory - or maybe if you're a midget. Counter top space in the kitchen - the 23FB has none. I don't do any cooking beyond heating stuff in the microwave and there are times when I'd like a bit more counter top space. I had a 2007 20' Safari and it has plenty of counter top space in the kitchen - although if you don't get the built in microwave and need one that will take up a lot of the space. It also has far more storage space in both the kitchen and the bathroom than you'll find in the 23FB. I went to the 23FB for 2 reasons - dual axles and more wardrobe space.
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Old 01-14-2010, 11:27 AM   #64
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Al-K4GLU, we like the layout of our 20' Safari very much. Very livable small trailer. What is your towing experience with the change to 23' dual axles, compared to your previous trailer?
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Old 01-14-2010, 12:19 PM   #65
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Nice layout .Now have a 20Ft. and Really like it. Kitchen is awsome.Bathroom has lots of room/Sep.shower.Good storeage.
We have looked @ 23 and think the kitchen size might be too small.Could not walk around Bed as overhead front cabinets seem to get in way.Dinette would be ok for 2.
We plan to look again this wknd @ Chicago RV/Boat Show. Love 25 but trying to stay smaller. So many Airstream not enough money.
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Old 01-14-2010, 04:05 PM   #66
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I am with Moose on this one. The one thing that made us move to a 25' was the small refrigerator on the 23'. I still don't understand how Airstream will not put a two door fridge in anything under 25'. I had a smaller SOB and we fell in love with the fridge. Pay three times the price for an Airstream and you get only half a refrigerator.

I know, this is just my opinion but........
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Old 01-14-2010, 04:39 PM   #67
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I was in lust with a 70's two axle California kept 23-footer and declined to be aggressive bidding, lost it and then bought the wrong trailer, err, bought my '73 27'... That is now the top line on my win the lottery dream list! Thanks for posting the alert & the just-bought notice, will be looking forward to reading more!
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Old 01-14-2010, 04:41 PM   #68
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Don't notice much difference between towing the 20 and the 23. The first few times I backed the 23 it didn't seem to be responding quite as quick as the 20 did when I turned the steering wheel but after 6 months its hard to remember the difference - and besides I might have been a bit timid the first few times I backed the 23 and imagined the whole thing. If you're interested in things like fuel mileage you'll have to ask someone else as that is something I pay no attention to.
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Old 01-14-2010, 07:56 PM   #69
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No A1-K4GLU, I don't pay much attention to fuel mileage either. Too many variables. But I have read so much suggesting a dual axle trailer tows much better than a single axle, I wanted to hear from someone who actually has towed both Airstreams of similar size with the same tow vehicle. Our 20' Safari single axle tows nicely as well, so I think we can cross that notion off our tiny list of reasons to move to a larger trailer.
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