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Old 12-31-2007, 06:55 AM   #1
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I am interested in this model. Can some one, who owns such a model, share with me what the "REAL" expected tongue loads might be..?

I have a 2006 F-150 5.4L with a 3.73 axle. From some literature I noticed the GVWR of the TT to be in the 7,400 lbs area.. (this is close to what I tow right know..) so the unknown is the tongue weight.. Any 25 Safari FB SE owners towing with a F150 5.4L ??
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:56 AM   #2
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The Stated hitch weight of a 2008 Airstream Safari SE 25' FB is 720 lbs. It would be slightly higher (800 lbs.) if it has the optional front panoramic windows, like the six we have in stock.
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Old 12-31-2007, 09:03 AM   #3
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Hello ZenFook -- Welcome to AIR Forums!

Patrick? The LS package was made standard for these Airstreams a year or two back right? And that now includes a spare tire as standard?

ZenFook -- I bought my Airstream when the LS package wasn't standard. So the LS features are not included in my baseline weights. And wouldn't you know it that the 720# tongue weight is unchanged in Airstream literature after LS was made standard. Here goes anyway -- added weight distribution gear (including hitch bar for the receiver -- 35+ pounds all by itself for my Reese Dual Cam), propane in the tanks & spare tire all cause me to figure I have a neighborhood 900# tongue weight with minimum personal gear in the trailer. This makes sense to be because the moment arm inputs of these A-frame mounted items puts very little of their weights back on the axles. I tow with a 3/4 ton, so don't think twice about filling my water tank before heading out. It would be good if I followed my own advice and checked my tongue weight with a bathroom scale (same technique included in all Airstream manuals too). Tongue weight otherwise will be 11-13% of the gross trailer weight -- less can get into significant instability.

Your truck probably has a standard (not optional) Class III or IV receiver if you're towing that kind of weight, so wouldn't have to subtract payload pounds to do that upgrade. I used a 1/2 ton 5.6L Nissan Titan for my first few months towing the 25' FB SE. It worked very well. The Titan is unusual in having a 5-speed tranny -- the rear end ratio doesn't translate directly, but with the tranny combination it was supposed to be equivalent to a 4.10. It towed well but the truck's payload capacity caused me to limit what I could put in the truck.

I read frequent comments on the 5.4 liters. You could manage for midwest camping or until you'd be transitioning to a different tow vehicle. Mountains will be okay but take it easy -- mountains + interstate 4 lane grades is kinder. Diesel isn't necessary for these loads but 3/4 ton will be more durable for the long run. Let's see what 5.4L comments come along...
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.... like the six we have in stock.
Smooth Patrick! I like the way you just slipped that in there....
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Patrick? The LS package was made standard for these Airstreams a year or two back right? And that now includes a spare tire as standard?
Yes the LS upgrade package has become standard on Safari SE's as of this past year. In the LS upgrade package the spare tire is included. In all the Airstreams the spare tire is now included as standard.
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Old 12-31-2007, 11:26 AM   #6
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Thank you all for the comments and advise..

NeatAirstream Your website is the TOP bookmark here...
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I am interested in this model. Can some one, who owns such a model, share with me what the "REAL" expected tongue loads might be..?

I have a 2006 F-150 5.4L with a 3.73 axle. From some literature I noticed the GVWR of the TT to be in the 7,400 lbs area.. (this is close to what I tow right know..) so the unknown is the tongue weight.. Any 25 Safari FB SE owners towing with a F150 5.4L ??
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I appreciate your concern about your Tow Vehicle. You'll get lots of information and opinions here. We tow our 06 25 FB, SE, with our 05 F150/5.4 liter. It's got the tow package and it pulls great up the hills. If slow vehicles don't get in the way, we can do a steady 55mph up most passes. If we have to slow down, we're crawling at 45/50mph. All and all, it's a cool tow rig. Someday I'll trade it in for a F250. For now, it does the job fine. We average about 10 trips a year. Most of them are along the California coast, not a lot of mountain traveling.
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905 lbs

We have a 2006 Safari 25FB/SE with the front Pano windows, LS package and use an Equal-i-zer hitch. Our tonque weight when our Airstream is loaded for a trip is similar to Canoe's, it is 905 lbs.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:42 AM   #9
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1Bombshell..... Thanks for the feedback.
TIMEMACHINE I really appreciate all the good detailed info you gave me in your pm's...

Thanks again folks..
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