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08-08-2020, 11:33 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 27' International
Saint Helena Island
, South Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Stripped Lug Bolt Removal-Just Turns
Needed to remove tire due to a slow leak. Loosened five of the six lugs no problem. Sixth one the socket didn't want to go on as easily. Upon inspection it appears to be rounded some. I've never had tire off and suspect at the factory somebody got trigger happy with an impact gun. After getting a socket on the lug nut and turning to loosen it just turns but doesn't come off. Appears the lug bolt was stripped on the plate. Are these the same as an auto brake drum where you just press another in? I saw on You Tube how to drill the lug nut off but was wondering about what after that? Any help and suggestions/tips would be greatly appreciated.
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08-08-2020, 11:43 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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You most likely have the original two piece lugnuts.
A lot of folks have replaced them with a solid lug nut.
I used Mcgard.
Excellant quality made right here in Western NYS.👍
Bob
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Like this...junk.
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08-08-2020, 11:53 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 27' International
Saint Helena Island
, South Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 91
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So what your saying is I'm turning the cap and not the whole thing? Never even thought of that. Think I can get the cap off to access the second part? What a stupid design if that's the case.
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08-08-2020, 11:57 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rollieboy
So what your saying is I'm turning the cap and not the whole thing? Never even thought of that. Think I can get the cap off to access the second part? What a stupid design if that's the case.
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Yep...It's been so long I've forgotten what size is under the 'cover'...whatever it is, a metric 6pt fits best.
Bob
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08-08-2020, 12:24 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 27' International
Saint Helena Island
, South Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Thanks Bob,
Any good ideas for getting the cap off?
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08-08-2020, 12:32 PM
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1 Rivet Member
Islamorada
, Florida
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 12
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2 piece lug nuts
I use a cold chisel and a hammer. Go easy though!
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08-08-2020, 12:32 PM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Small steel chisel start a split and keep going.
Smack new whatever size socket on and consider it an offering to success.
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08-08-2020, 12:51 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 27' International
Saint Helena Island
, South Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Going to give it a try and then replace all of them. What a stupid idea in the first place, two piece.
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08-08-2020, 01:17 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rollieboy
Thanks Bob,
Any good ideas for getting the cap off?
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I had about 6 to get off, some were already cracked, I used a new, quality pair of side cutters, grabbed an edge and twisted. The cutters were large enough to cut the covers that were not cracked.
Bob
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08-08-2020, 01:23 PM
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Registered User
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Fairfield
, California
Join Date: Sep 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rollieboy
Thanks Bob,
Any good ideas for getting the cap off?
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Using a strong large flat screw driver as chisel I cut down the cap until I got down a little past the nut then gave a twist that caused the cap to crack the rest of the way. After the second one I got it down to about 5 minutes per lug. The first took forever because I did not realise I could do the twist and snap.
I used a regular tire iron to remove the nut.
Thanks,
Matti
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08-08-2020, 01:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rollieboy
Going to give it a try and then replace all of them. What a stupid idea in the first place, two piece.
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You can thank General Motors (and others) in the 1970s for that idea.
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08-08-2020, 01:52 PM
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2019 27' Globetrotter
McHenry
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Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
You can thank General Motors (and others) in the 1970s for that idea.
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Amen to that! All to save a dime (if that). I was a GM mechanic during that shameful era. Luckily there were some of the best looking cars in the late ‘60’s - early ‘70’s by the Big 3.
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08-08-2020, 01:57 PM
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2016 19ft flying cloud
Spokane
, Washington
Join Date: May 2016
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I think 2016 was the last year they used those,,,might want to get rid of the marathons tires at the sametime,,,will save you a lot of trouble down the road
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08-08-2020, 01:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 19' Bambi
Lafayette
, California
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The 2-piece nuts really aren't that stupid if the guy with the impact wrench doesn't use a 12-point socket. That can easily deform the stainless steel cover which makes the next attempt with a 12-point socket a miserable experience.
Having had the 2-piece nuts on several tow vehicles and our Airstream, I can say that 6-point sockets are a much better choice for either a torque wrench or an impact wrench.
Tim
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08-08-2020, 03:40 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
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Correct...it's only stupid to use them as a way of cutting costs.🥴
Bob
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08-08-2020, 03:52 PM
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2007 22' International CCD
Corona
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Surprised that our 2007 International CCD had solid lug nuts from the factory. Must have been a more recent cost cutting measure.
Of course I figured that out AFTER I bought a full set of replacement McGard lug nuts...oh well, spares in depth!
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08-08-2020, 04:47 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 27' International
Saint Helena Island
, South Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2008
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As usual you guys are a wealth of information. Going to get what I need and tackle this project in the AM.
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08-08-2020, 05:15 PM
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2007 30' Classic S/O
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rollieboy
As usual you guys are a wealth of information. Going to get what I need and tackle this project in the AM.
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Don’t forget the bandaids.
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08-08-2020, 05:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GCinSC2
Don’t forget the bandaids.
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And change for the Cuss Jar.
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08-08-2020, 06:20 PM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
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Terry
We’re in a coin shortage so IOU’s are now ok.
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