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05-15-2016, 05:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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An Airstream is like a box of chocolates.
You never know what you are going to get.
I go over to the unit this afternoon, to put on my new Centramatics. I'm primed, ready, and loaded with all my tools, and a few I borrowed from our school district transportation shop. (Snap on torque wrench) I've also got new Mcgards lug nuts to replace the cheapo two piece nuts that none seams to like.
So I get to my trailer, and get out my new half inch breaker bar, (22 dollars at Lowes) rummage through my long socket set trying out sizes and find that a 19 mm fits perfectly. Cool. I start reefing on the first nut, and it starts to turn, and me, figuring that the cap is coming off, continue and take it off the wheel.
Only it's not a cap. It's a solid chrome lug nut. What the? Ok, I loosen all the nuts on one wheel, and then position the jack to raise the trailer. Only my two ton bottle jack won't reach the metal piece under the trailer. Drat. So I start scrounging wood to stack so I can use my jack. Now I have built a rickety contraption out of three disparate pieces of wood to lift the trailer, and I'm really not liking the looks of this, but I want to get-r-done so I persevere. Except, I sorta lost half the extension that acts as a lever and I don't have enough strength to get the wheels off the ground. *#}+~!
So I lower the trailer, (sorta had it halfway up) torque all the wheel nuts to 110, go home with my tail between my legs.
I think I need a better jack to take with on trips. Any suggestions? And why does my 15 FC have solid lug nuts?
Mike
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05-15-2016, 06:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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I don't know why you have solid chrome lug nuts - you sure!? I wish they made that mistake with me! 😂
An easier (perhaps safer) way to do this is with a Trailer Aid (don't know about this shop but the picture helps explain better than I could).
http://www.statelinetack.com/item/tr...7-adType%5EPLA
I have one and used it with my tire dealer to swap out my GYMs. One at a time - they had no problem with it!
Good luck!!
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05-15-2016, 08:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
I don't know why you have solid chrome lug nuts - you sure!? I wish they made that mistake with me! 😂
An easier (perhaps safer) way to do this is with a Trailer Aid (don't know about this shop but the picture helps explain better than I could).
http://www.statelinetack.com/item/tr...7-adType%5EPLA
I have one and used it with my tire dealer to swap out my GYMs. One at a time - they had no problem with it!
Good luck!!
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Yep. One piece chrome lug nuts from the factory. Now I have 24 Mcgards I'm not sure what to do with. I suspect the Mcgards are better quality than what is on the trailer, but I don't know that. There was a small bit of rust on the threads of the nuts.
I looked at the Trailer aid yesterday at Camping World, and decided it took up too much space. I may revisit that thought, or maybe the Andersen rapid jack. Iwas trying to save time and not hook up, but time was not saved.
Mike
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05-15-2016, 08:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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If you want to sell me those 24 McGards, let me know.
The trailer aid doesn't take much room in my 27FB storage area (under the bed). You can accomplish the same with your "Legos" if you use those - you sort of build up a ramp.
Good luck!
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05-15-2016, 08:27 PM
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Free Range Human
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Haines
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 736
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caffeinated
Yep. One piece chrome lug nuts from the factory. Now I have 24 Mcgards I'm not sure what to do with. I suspect the Mcgards are better quality than what is on the trailer, but I don't know that. There was a small bit of rust on the threads of the nuts.
I looked at the Trailer aid yesterday at Camping World, and decided it took up too much space. I may revisit that thought, or maybe the Andersen rapid jack. Iwas trying to save time and not hook up, but time was not saved.
Mike
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Mike we are down in Canby. If no one is a taker, give me a shout, I am interested.
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05-16-2016, 12:37 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1986 25' Sovereign
Bowie
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 5
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Trailer aid substitute
As a newbie and cheapie, instead of the Trailer Aid, I found a 6X6 about 18" long and sawed a taper on one end. Does the function for free.
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05-16-2016, 01:40 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2009 28' International
Pacific Palisades
, California
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 436
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For our old box trailer, that's what we did too, but actually with one 4x6 and two 2x6's. They could be stacked if necessary with the longer 4x6 in the bottom. All were angle cut on one end, and I added a handle to the narrow side fur easier handling. Then painted all three to seal. A wisk broom after use kept them clean.
But they are super heavy, and take up way too much room if the Airatreams extremely limited basement storage. So we just invested in a couple of Anderson's, and we'll see how those work out!
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05-16-2016, 08:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gecko
For our old box trailer, that's what we did too, but actually with one 4x6 and two 2x6's. They could be stacked if necessary with the longer 4x6 in the bottom. All were angle cut on one end, and I added a handle to the narrow side fur easier handling. Then painted all three to seal. A wisk broom after use kept them clean.
But they are super heavy, and take up way too much room if the Airatreams extremely limited basement storage. So we just invested in a couple of Anderson's, and we'll see how those work out!
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Did you get the Andersen levelers, or the rapid jack?
Mike
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05-16-2016, 08:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
I don't know why you have solid chrome lug nuts - you sure!? I wish they made that mistake with me! 😂
An easier (perhaps safer) way to do this is with a Trailer Aid (don't know about this shop but the picture helps explain better than I could).
http://www.statelinetack.com/item/tr...7-adType%5EPLA
I have one and used it with my tire dealer to swap out my GYMs. One at a time - they had no problem with it!
Good luck!!
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I use the "lego" ramp - they're multifunction - and they are SAFE... partly because you are hooked up and can apply the tow vehicle's emergency brake. No way the trailer falls off the jack or rolls off it either. Call me chicken****
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05-16-2016, 10:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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That ain't chicken--that's wise ol owl.
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Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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05-17-2016, 07:40 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Fitchburg
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 228
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And I used the "Lego Ramp" to switch to 16" wheels last week. It worked very well, just remember to loosen the nuts before you pull the wheel off the ground.
The Andersen looks like a good solution but if you carry equipment to achieve side-to-side level you've probably already got what you need.
You can also use the Legos to raise your bottle jack if you don't want to move the trailer (like it's in the garage). I've done that too and I think it was safe, with a jack stand, of course.
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05-17-2016, 03:01 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2009 28' International
Pacific Palisades
, California
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 436
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caffeinated
Did you get the Andersen levelers, or the rapid jack?
Mike
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Levelers, Mike. Not sure if they're enough for changing a wheel, though.
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05-18-2016, 10:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Newberg
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,052
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I went back over to the Silver girl tonight after work and finished the job.
I think I may have to change my screen name to the village idiot.
First off, I found a extra piece for my bottle jack that makes the lever longer, and I was able to use it to get both wheels off the ground. Then when I was taking off the lug nuts I took a close look at them and noticed there was this tiny seem at the bottom. And the outside flats were a little deformed. Yep, my "factory" one piece chrome lug nuts were actually the aluminum capped ones. I just didn't realize it until tonight. You know, I'm starting to think that maybe wrenching isn't really my thing.
Anyway, I got my wheels off, Centramatics on, and installed the Mcgards. It was a lot of work for a geezer, but I'm happy it's done.
Mike
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05-19-2016, 03:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Congrats Mike 😀
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05-19-2016, 04:45 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Don't feel bad, Aluminum can dazzle and mislead you.
Paula
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05-19-2016, 05:01 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foiled Again
Don't feel bad, Aluminum can dazzle and mislead you.
Paula
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Thru the ages......
"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden; it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor."
Horace
Bob
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05-23-2016, 10:41 AM
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New Member
2015 30' International
Lees Summit
, Missouri
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 3
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This is what you want, they are available at walmart, back up and put the tire you are NOT working on in this and it lifts the trailer enough for you to change the other tire.
Camco Trailer Aid...
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