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Old 09-24-2010, 05:28 PM   #21
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fine idea, but NOT a canadian invention.

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... using a 1/2" bolt "pushed through two overlapping links" to gain 1/3 of a link adjustment...
the bolt goes IN the space where the 2 links touch/overlap/connect.

there is NO gap there since the links touch tightly under tension,

but sticking a bolt into that area MAKES 4 a gap.

so while the links are SLACK a bolt can be inserted in the INTERspace where they overlap.

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now when tensioned/stretched the 2 links (and total chain) are 'shorter' by whatever was stuck in the space.

so the 1/3rd adjustment 'gain' is actually a 1/3 SHORTER chain link.

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Old 09-24-2010, 05:30 PM   #22
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REDNAX... Right, I understand what he is trying to accomplish, I just don't understand how the bolt is used in the link. Also, can't intermediate adjustments be made by slightly increasing the rear-ward tilt of the hitch ball? Thanks for thinking this through with me, I'm trying to dial-in my hitch adjustment.
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:38 PM   #23
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Fine tuning bar tension

A picture is worth a 1,000 words.

This is a great way to fine tune the bar tension. Thnxs Can Am for the great idea.
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:50 PM   #24
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Ah ha! That's what I was looking for. Thanks, Road Ruler.
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Sorry, he did state it and I repeated it. A bolt with washers and locking nut to take up "space" within the link. Should start own thread, or, better, IMO, go to this thread and post with numbers & photos:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f238...-in-17984.html

Another quote (attribution lost; BryanL?):

Adjust the hitch ball height to 'level' the trailer.

Adjust the weight distributing bars to 'level' the tow
vehicle.

Adjust the hitch head angle to 'level' the bars.



Comes prior to "hair-fine" adjustments such as bolt-in-link, IMO. I see these things as being points of departure for thinking and experimenting. The numbers are the ONLY real thing (past measurements of height before & after hitching).

The further point, as with -- again -- the OP's question, is that it is the accumulation of numbers over time (trips) and experience with continued adjustments. TV's, TT's all tend to gain weight. The driver accumulates knowledge of how his rig handles (we hope), and it is through weight scale numbers and numbers alone that we can hope to perfect STATIC conditions as the predictor of dynamic conditions. ("Predictor" is too strong a word; it is that we hope to more perfectly fit the recommendations for our TT's & TV's manufacturer guidelines for towing).

Setting up a WDH the first time, correctly, is a PITA because it's new to us. But continued use of a certified scale ought to be second nature after awhile. Only then do we know what changes in the rigging really work. It's easy enough to whip through the scale on the way to the fuel island. And cheap for the benefits.

Think, "body of knowledge".

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Thanks to all of you for the clarification. As usualy, the forum comes through.
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A one-tonne dually's stiff suspension could easily damage a lighter weight AS by shaking it to pieces. That combo is not good idea IMO.
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Old 09-24-2010, 06:21 PM   #28
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A one-tonne dually's stiff suspension could easily damage a lighter weight AS by shaking it to pieces. That combo is not good idea IMO.
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Loaded for travel, both truck and trailer hitched and wd bars in use w/ Airsafe hitch at 60 psi:
Hi, this is why he has the Airsafe Hitch.
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Hi, this is why he has the Airsafe Hitch.
Ah-ha ! Thanks Robert....missed that.
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OK, I finally have the tongue weight to add to my numbers of my 27. Ready for travel it weighs in at 950#. Next, I have to get the weight of the truck loaded for travel and I'll have the complete set of numbers to work with.
At that tongue weight the 1000# wd bars and the old style Reese cam sway control work well. As far as the ride of the trailer and truck, the Airsafe hitch pulls the whole thing together and provides a great ride for both. It's the "woopie cushion effect", and it's all good.
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OK, I finally have the tongue weight to add to my numbers of my 27. Ready for travel it weighs in at 950#. Next, I have to get the weight of the truck loaded for travel and I'll have the complete set of numbers to work with.
At that tongue weight the 1000# wd bars and the old style Reese cam sway control work well. As far as the ride of the trailer and truck, the Airsafe hitch pulls the whole thing together and provides a great ride for both. It's the "woopie cushion effect", and it's all good.
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Isn't it great when a plan comes together?

Yes, and I blame you for it!

Without your thread about AirSafe I'd still be fooling around with different size bars trying to make the trailer ride as it should. It made all the difference in the world when the AirSafe Hitch became part of the set up.
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Very good to learn others are having great success with the AirSafe hitch. I just received mine last week. I bought one after reading about possible damage heavy duty trucks can do to the Airstream. I bought my F-350 DRW prior to reading the posts about the HD trucks. I had to acquire another TV after my dad wrecked my Expedition.
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A bolt with washers and locking nut to take up "space" within the link.

Don't worry about washers and locking nut. A 1/2" bolt and nut, finger tight, is quite sufficient. I towed about 6,000 miles that way, until my new hitch bars wore in and I realized I needed another half link of tension and took the bolts out.
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Very good to learn others are having great success with the AirSafe hitch. I just received mine last week. I bought one after reading about possible damage heavy duty trucks can do to the Airstream. I bought my F-350 DRW prior to reading the posts about the HD trucks. I had to acquire another TV after my dad wrecked my Expedition.

There are quite a few on this site who have them, and from what I see, everybody that tries the AirSafe likes the results.
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