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05-21-2007, 10:38 AM
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New Member
1980 31' Excella II
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: May 2007
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Towing Question noises from hitch
We have just recently purchased a 1980 31' Excella II. We towed it for the first time and it made all kind of noises from the hitch area. We are guessing that it was the load levelers. It was every time we went into a turn. It made popping noises. We are used to towing a pop up camper and was wondering if this is normal or is there something we are doing wrong?
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05-21-2007, 10:48 AM
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Rivet Master 
1978 31' Excella 500
Venice
, California
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,067
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Yep, those could be your sonic dampeners at work! That is assuming you have the dual cam anti-sway. To know if your sound is normal, we neeed to know what hitch set-up you're using.
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05-21-2007, 11:00 AM
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Ready-to-Travel

2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
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I remember being startled by my friction anti-sway device on my first trip. Also, I use grease on my hitch ball - some folks don't.
Pat
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05-21-2007, 11:09 AM
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Rivet Master 
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
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Yep, First time I towed and heard that it scared the wee outta me.
If you really want to know if you have to worry or not. Just post what type of setup you have.
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05-21-2007, 11:12 AM
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Moderator

2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
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2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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We get squeeking and creeking noises with our Hensley hitch when turning at low speeds. Regreesing helps, but it still makes some noise.
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05-21-2007, 11:15 AM
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Rivet Master 

2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Yes, Pat, it is recommended to use grease on the hitch ball. There are a number of alternatives -- never been able to find the thread with the secret stuff to keep from marking up my pants. Even heard of somebody using wax paper.
Same question: Do you know the brand of weight distribution/anti-sway gear on your Excella? Yes, Reese dual cam makes noise on turns or backing up. Never apply grease to lessen that noise -- it's the friction that holds your trailer in line when it needs to.
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05-21-2007, 11:24 AM
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Rivet Master 
2007 30' Classic
Hernando
, Mississippi
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I've found that if you keep the windows up and the radio turned up loud, you don't hear those scary noises.....
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05-21-2007, 11:59 AM
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Rivet Master 
1971 27' Overlander
Central
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We came off a 12 foot fiberglass Coleman pop-up also - to a 27 footer. The load levelers/anti sway creaks, groans and pops. Try to just think of it as the hitch reminding you it is doing what it's supposed to.
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05-21-2007, 12:03 PM
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Patriotic

1973 23' Safari
North of Boston
, Massachusetts
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*IF* its a Reese dual-cam, Reese says you can put a dab of vaseline on the saddle-cams to reduce the noise. grease is too slippery, and will reduce the effectiveness of the anti-sway effect. But apparently, vaseline isn't all that slilppery. seems odd, but if the manufacturer says its ok...
anyway, I tried it on mine, and it works great. It pretty much eliminated any noise from back there.
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05-21-2007, 12:34 PM
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Rivet Master 

2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
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Thanks Chuck. I thought I remembered their instructions said vaseline was okay but figured I needed to double check that.
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05-21-2007, 03:12 PM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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Yea, ditto, I'm switchin' to the Vase......  Been using just an ever so slight coating of grease. Of course as most tech heads, I rarely RTFM.
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05-21-2007, 03:22 PM
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
2006 30' Safari
Orlando
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2004
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In addition to the Reese Dual Cam, the Equal-i-zer brand hitch that I have makes a similar noise in tight turns. It takes getting used to. I had been warned of the noise before we got our trailer so I knew to expect it...doesn't mean I didn't think I hit something with the trailer though. However, I did hit a guard rail in a tight turn with the trailer on our first camping trip and it made less noise that the hitch does!
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05-21-2007, 03:47 PM
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Moderator

2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton
, Missouri
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Gee and I thought the noise was the low speed campground warning system!
Sort of like the backup warning beeps.......
Jack
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05-21-2007, 03:57 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2006 28' Safari SE
Winter Park
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2006
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When I bought our AS the dealer installed an Equalizer and the service manager told me NOT to grease it. Without grease, our AS sounded like a rusty old battleship being dragged down the road and we attracted stares from other RV'rs in the wrong sort of way. Then I actually read the Equalizer owner's manual which expressly says that grease CAN be applied without affecting performance. I now use a "white" marine grease that I buy in the boat section at Bass Pro Shops and we're nearly silent.
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05-21-2007, 04:09 PM
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Rivet Master 
1978 31' Excella 500
Venice
, California
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,067
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From the horse's mouth, i.e. Reese website:
Can I grease the Dual Cam Sway Control (DCSC)?
Do not grease the cam and cam arms. The Dual Cam was designed to use metal-to-metal friction. Heavy greasing of the cam and cam arm surfaces with affect performance. If noise is offensive, a very light coating of lubricant, such as Vaseline, may be used. Tongue weights over 1,200 lbs. may require a light coating of grease to reduce friction and prevent excessive wear. The Dual Cam Sway Control DCSC is not to be lubricated on the cam arms when the tongue weight is under 1,200 lbs. Instead you will want to apply a thin coat of a petroleum jelly, such as Vaseline. This will act as a poor lubricant, but works well to dampen the sound. For trailers with over 1,200 lbs. tongue weight you should apply a couple of drops of an 80/90 gear lube to the cam arm to prevent excessive wear caused by the increased tongue weight.
Awh, what do they know? Anyway, the real reason that they were designed to be noisy, as practically everyone knows, is that Airstreams are so light and smooth that without an occasional audible reminder, we'd forget they were back there.
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'78 Excella 500,"The Silver Pullit". vacuum over hydraulic disc brakes, center bath, rear twin. '67 Travelall 1200 B 4X4 WBCCI 3737
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05-21-2007, 07:50 PM
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New Member
1980 31' Excella II
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: May 2007
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Thank you
Thank you guys for all the input about the creeks and pops when towing. Makes me feel better about the camper. I guess I won't be so nervous when we go camping this weekend. Thank you all again.
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05-21-2007, 08:16 PM
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Rivet Master 
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbradhstream
When I bought our AS the dealer installed an Equalizer and the service manager told me NOT to grease it. Without grease, our AS sounded like a rusty old battleship being dragged down the road and we attracted stares from other RV'rs in the wrong sort of way. Then I actually read the Equalizer owner's manual which expressly says that grease CAN be applied without affecting performance. I now use a "white" marine grease that I buy in the boat section at Bass Pro Shops and we're nearly silent.
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Had the same problem with the EQ hitch when I got it.....lots of popping and groaning. A litle dab of the equalizer lube that they sell and it was almost silent........and HAPPY
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05-22-2007, 10:12 AM
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Moderator

1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,920
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2 arguments againts using grease-
1) it's gonna get on your clothes (it's amazing how far grease weavles can jump)
2) it collects dirt and turns into grinding compound so wipe it off and regrease regularly if your a 'greaser'
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05-22-2007, 10:33 AM
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Ready-to-Travel

2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,135
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Do you reckon that the "grinding compound" wears the ball and hitch away faster than an ungreased metal-to-metal junction would?
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05-22-2007, 10:42 AM
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Moderator

1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
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If the chrome is in good shape, it's a great anti wear surface. Once it's gone you are probably correct.
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