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Old 11-01-2005, 03:49 AM   #1
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The HITCH BUDDY????

Has anyone seen or used this towing device? Go to www.hitch-buddy.com and let us know what you think.

We are interested in any anything which will make our 28' Safari and Tahoe combination a safer and less stressful experience.

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Old 11-01-2005, 02:22 PM   #2
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If you type "hitch buddy" in the search facility at the top of the screen, you will be directed to 13 threads on the subject, one of which is yours! Happy reading.
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All those search results are different type buddies. This is the first time I've seen a bogey set up like this on the airstreamforums. What tongue weight! What $$$!
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Has anyone seen or used this towing device? Go to www.hitch-buddy.com and let us know what you think.

We are interested in any anything which will make our 28' Safari and Tahoe combination a safer and less stressful experience.

Sharon and Winston
I think that would work great. Of course you would have to convert your Safari to a 5th wheel and that may be a little difficult

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I think that would work great. Of course you would have to convert your Safari to a 5th wheel and that may be a little difficult

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Dennis,
Go look at the website...it is also set up to tow a conventional trailer too. IMHO if you are that concerned about safety and tow weights, consider the possiblity of a Hensley or a change in tow vehicles.

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I think that would work great. Of course you would have to convert your Safari to a 5th wheel and that may be a little difficult
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Many years ago I saw an Airstream that had been converted (badly) to a 5'er. It looked like the framing was done with 2x4s and the aluminum was laid on like roofing shingles.

It was parked outside a metal recycling yard.
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Seems like a little bit "overkill". Looks like it should be hitched to a pup trailer behind a Freightliner. I think I'll just tow the old fashioned way.
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The next time any of you watch "The Long, Long Trailer" take a close look at how the tow vehicle is attached to the New Moon. They just dusted off the plans, updated them a bit, and started making them again.
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:06 PM   #9
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Hi, Silvercamper,

I am well familiar with that over-campered, under-vehicled feeling (I towed a 31' Excella over 2,000 miles with a Dakota), but I don't think that adding yet another pivot into the system would be a good answer. I've watched the tandem U.S. mail trucks before and noticed that the rear trailer tends to wander a bit on the road. I wouldn't want to TOUCH that with my travel trailer.

With the Dakota, I wanted to make the interface between trailer and truck MORE rigid, not less.

Folks, am I understanding this right -- that it does add an additional pivot point some few back from the receiver?

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Lamar,
If I interpert the drawings and pictures correctly it is a solid link at the TV, I think the main advantage is the ability to tow a 5'ver with a conventional hitch on something like an Excursion or Suburban. I suspect it would help in a marginal weight situation, but IMHO it is just going to add more complexity to the situation, and for the cost involved...

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what a laugh!

when you get done camping you could tow over the road for ups!

just get a 3/4 ton truck and be done with it!

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Hi, Aaron,

I am probably misunderstanding this, which is a specialty of mine, but the very first picture you come to on their website shows the tow-behind at an angle to the tow vehicle.

I just read through "What you will achieve" at their website, and I don't see yet where the unit locks to the TV and does not make an extra pivot.
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Thumbs down I'll pass on this one

I've been a commercial driver in the past, mainly 7 and 9 axle heavy equipment hauling. In that business, they call this type of device a jeep, still transfers a percentage of tow weight to the hitch, but decreases axle loads, by adding more of them. But this one, has me concerned with minimal towing weight transfered to the tow vehicle, and with a narrower track width of the tow vehicle.There's a nice formula between hitch weight and tow weight, and this gizmo isn't going to get it.
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Old 11-01-2005, 08:26 PM   #14
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Hi, Aaron,

I am probably misunderstanding this, which is a specialty of mine, but the very first picture you come to on their website shows the tow-behind at an angle to the tow vehicle.

I just read through "What you will achieve" at their website, and I don't see yet where the unit locks to the TV and does not make an extra pivot.
What I was looking at was the 3 point hookup...it looks to me like a solid hookup except in the up and down plane....

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I may add, the axis between the 5th wheel platform height and the conventional reciever hitch height, and the increase of fulcrum
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I've been a commercial driver in the past, mainly 7 and 9 axle heavy equipment hauling. In that business, they call this type of device a jeep, still transfers a percentage of tow weight to the hitch, but decreases axle loads, by adding more of them. But this one, has me concerned with minimal towing weight transfered to the tow vehicle, and with a narrower track width of the tow vehicle.There's a nice formula between hitch weight and tow weight, and this gizmo isn't going to get it.
I'll second that, I drove commercial for for many years BUT:
It looks to me like a jackknife situation waiting to happen. There may be a lot they aren't showing and telling but I would err or the side of caution.
Be very careful with this.
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Is in very very small print and you have to search for it. $5995 plus tax and shipping.

For that kind of money, trade for a proper tow vehicle and forget this kludge.
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:35 AM   #18
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and Tires too!

And you get to deal with an extra set of tires ( LT vs. ST), bearings, lugnuts, etc... Yippee!!!! Something else that costs a zillion dollars, very few people have one - exclusivity!!!! - wonder why? Hmmm - I'll give you a minute if you need it.

Oh, and it just looks like one more thing that YOU have to deal with, fix, work on, repair, when they are practically GIVING away big motored HD trucks. Scratching head, thinking! NOPE, DON"T MAKE NO SENSE! Any way you cut it.

Like someone said, trade that TV and do it right. Put the rest of your money to work at the pump and GO.......!!!!!

Rube Goldberg is filing to get a patent on this "Hitch Buddy" dealio right now! Count on it.

BTW - Where would you store it? Do you leave it attached to the trailer? Anyone could hitch up and drive off....or? Do you drag it with you to go see Crazy Horse Monument? ( and extra $7 per axle and I think they would count that one for sure!!!!!)

OK - enough time, typing effort and derision heaped on that by me - sorry if I offended anyone or put them off - I wasn't trying hard enough I guess.

I'm sure "Hitch Buddy" works exactly as advertised (disclaimer!).

With a "national" 3 lawyers to every 50 odd people ratio, you can't be too careful! Or is it 3 odd lawyers to 50 normal people ratio? I get confused

Anyway, Ciao

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Old 11-02-2005, 08:00 AM   #19
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How does this work?

From the Hitch Buddy website:

"The Hitch Buddy’s unique design independently carries the full load of the trailer pin weight. This means that 100% of your vehicle’s horsepower can be dedicated to pulling, rather than having that power reduced by a typical hitch."

I was not aware that typical hitches reduced horsepower in this way.

I was also amused to see the price of this hitch justified on by comparing its cost-per-foot to the cost-per-foot of an SUV.

Ah, the sweet odor of snake oil.
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Old 11-02-2005, 08:23 AM   #20
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"The Hitch Buddy’s unique design independently carries the full load of the trailer pin weight"
This statment alone makes me nervous, Humm, kinda like a train concept, pull rather than carry, and we all no how efficent this concept can be under emergency braking
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