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09-15-2024, 03:40 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2024 28' Pottery Barn
FRESNO
, CA
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 49
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New Tow vehicle- need WDH?
Moving up from 1500 Chevy to 2024 Chevy 2500 HD … diesel with tow package, the works. Towing 2024 28’ A/S.. complete overkill with the new TV I know, but leaving room to grow . I’ve used Blue Ox WDH with my 1500, thought I would with new TV, but this community has the best advice/ suggestions etc., I wanted to get opinions.
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09-15-2024, 03:44 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2024 28' Pottery Barn
FRESNO
, CA
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 49
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Adding to my post
The new TV is the High Country Edition -
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09-15-2024, 03:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2024 28' Flying Cloud
Bartlett
, Tennessee
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,127
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You may not need a WD hitch, but you definitely still need sway control of some kind. When I moved up from an F-150 and 23 foot trailer to an F-350 and 28 foot trailer, I kept using my Reese Strait-Line w/Dual Cam for the sway control. Heaven knows that I don't need it for WD now.
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2024 F-350 Crewcab 4x4 gasser
2024 Flying Cloud 28RBTwin
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09-15-2024, 04:01 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2024 28' Pottery Barn
FRESNO
, CA
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 49
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New TV does have sway control feature, with the Electronic Stability Control. Sounds like a lot of stuff the fix down the road, but what the h*ll, this baby is loaded.
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09-15-2024, 04:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2024 28' Flying Cloud
Bartlett
, Tennessee
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,127
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The truck's sway control is reactive. It doesn't kick in until you already have noticeable sway. What I am talking about is proactive sway control. It doesn't stop already noticeable sway, it PREVENTS sway. You need both.
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2024 F-350 Crewcab 4x4 gasser
2024 Flying Cloud 28RBTwin
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09-15-2024, 04:27 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2024 28' Pottery Barn
FRESNO
, CA
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 49
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Thanks, and understood. I’m def going WDH … always good on this site
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09-15-2024, 07:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 28' Flying Cloud
Broward
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2023
Posts: 505
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BML
Moving up from 1500 Chevy to 2024 Chevy 2500 HD … diesel with tow package, the works. Towing 2024 28’ A/S.. complete overkill with the new TV I know, but leaving room to grow . I’ve used Blue Ox WDH with my 1500, thought I would with new TV, but this community has the best advice/ suggestions etc., I wanted to get opinions.
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A 2500 is the proper tow vehicle for a 28' Airstream. It is not overkill. You do not need a weight distribution or sway control hitch with this truck.
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09-16-2024, 06:53 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 19' International
Ft. Pierce
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 55
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Congrats on the new Chevy. I also appreciate the input from this forum, but verify what is provided. Chevy had a truck’s trailering guide that I used to make my decision. Google for it for your year. It was helpful. Enjoy your new ride
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09-16-2024, 09:20 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 7,163
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I have a 28' AS FCTwin model, and F250 3/4T King Ranch 4x4. I use the BO with Sway Pro, last 7 years; love the combination. Once you dial in the links showing to 4.5 or 3.5 links showing, I think you will be happy if you choose Blue Ox system. Personally, I believe in using the WDH with Sway Control. Unless perhaps you have a "dully". Some folks here are "anti" WDH as you no doubt will see comment. I have driven with mine and without for short distances on highway; I personally believe in the Blue Ox or I would have stopped using it; it has saved us a couple times in emergency manuver situation while at speed. Your decision of course. By the way: Congratulations!
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2017 F250 King Ranch, 4X4, 6.7L, Blue-Ox WDH
Summer-Star Valley Ranch RV Resort (Thayne, WY); Winter-Sun City (Georgetown,TX)
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09-16-2024, 09:45 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 28' Flying Cloud
Broward
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2023
Posts: 505
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If you use a WD/sway control hitch you need to be aware that these hitches will diminish your tow vehicles handling characteristics, in particular, its ability to go around a turn. Here are some estimates of road holding g-force before losing control:
truck alone without trailer: 0.7g
truck towing trailer with simple ball mount: 0.5g
truck towing trailer with wd/sway control hitch: 0.3g
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09-16-2024, 09:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2021 30' Flying Cloud
Airstream - Other
Airstream - Other
Lady Lake
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,263
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Shocker
Call Shocker Hitch was that truck you do not need weight distribution it only harms the trailer. Get the shocker hits with sway control arms no WD
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09-16-2024, 10:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2022 25' Flying Cloud
NCR
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,359
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https://www.canamrv.ca/blog/category/hitch-hints/If you use a WD/sway control hitch, you will get better handling characteristics
it is very important for hiway speeds ie a large truck passes you will not feel the sway compared to without Sway control
on any speed, it will ensure your TV is balance ie. equal weight front and rear.
without WD, you may end up with too much tail weight and lose steering ability
as well you may bottom out the rear load capacity
go to a trusted dealer such as CAMRV to set up your TV vehicle to match yur trailer
here is some towing info from their site
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09-16-2024, 10:56 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 33' Classic
Sarasota
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 30
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I have to comment on the trucks' ability to control sway. I have a 2024 F450 for my 33' classic. I was driving in a construction zone recently where there were groves in the road for various reasons. My dual wheels got caught in them and I had no where to go because of traffic on both sides of me. We were only going about 40-50. The second my wheels hit those groves and my truck started swaying, the auto sway control took over within a second of the movement. I understand the Propride or the Hensley might have prevented it, but I still feel safe knowing the truck is much quicker than I was in controlling the motion, and I don't have to deal with the heavy hitch, the stinger that i could never seem to get right the first time, and all the extra stuff to check. I am using a Curt Rebellion XD and I love the freedom.
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09-16-2024, 02:17 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
Rogers
, Arkansas
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 778
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You certainly do not NEED WDH hitch or something to control sway before it happens. BUT you WILL get a better ride with both. I know I can tell the difference with my 2500 with and without.
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09-17-2024, 07:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2024 23' International
South of Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 822
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Your truck manual will specify as well as hitch stickers
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09-17-2024, 10:34 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2024 28' Pottery Barn
FRESNO
, CA
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsydad
I have a 28' AS FCTwin model, and F250 3/4T King Ranch 4x4. I use the BO with Sway Pro, last 7 years; love the combination. Once you dial in the links showing to 4.5 or 3.5 links showing, I think you will be happy if you choose Blue Ox system. Personally, I believe in using the WDH with Sway Control. Unless perhaps you have a "dully". Some folks here are "anti" WDH as you no doubt will see comment. I have driven with mine and without for short distances on highway; I personally believe in the Blue Ox or I would have stopped using it; it has saved us a couple times in emergency manuver situation while at speed. Your decision of course. By the way: Congratulations!
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good stuff, I love the BO and will def use it. Safe travels.
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09-17-2024, 02:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,197
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I have never used a Blue Ox hitch. But...it sure seems like a good hitch and since you already know it well, why not? I have been happy with my Reese straight line hitch for the last 17 years but they are sorta out of vogue now. It does tow well, though.
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09-17-2024, 02:52 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,476
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Hi
You very much do need a WD / AS hitch if you are going to do normal camping things with your trailer and TV. Your rig will handle better driving down the road with that sort of setup and you will be more safe.
Which one you get is very much up to you. There are a number of choices. Indeed, you can go pretty crazy if you decide to.
I've had both a F250 and a F350 on our 30'. They both could go "unstable" with the AS disabled. As noted above the truck's built in AS setup is not at all pleasant to activate. In both cases the WD was needed with our typical loading.
Bob
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09-17-2024, 04:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,384
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Your manual will state whether you need a WDH based upon the tongue weight. And remember your tongue weight when loaded could exceed 1000lbs. You will definitely need sway control.
The Blue Ox Sway Pro would probably be adequate. If your old hitch is anti-sway see no reason you can’t use it. Will have to recalibrate the ball height etc, and you will probably need different bars.
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09-17-2024, 08:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2024 28' Flying Cloud
Bartlett
, Tennessee
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy543
A 2500 is the proper tow vehicle for a 28' Airstream. It is not overkill. You do not need a weight distribution or sway control hitch with this truck.
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OP, please note that this is absolute rubbish. You may or may not need a WD hitch, but EVERYBODY needs sway control. Any trailer can sway under the right conditions, and sway is dangerous. Sway can make your tow vehicle unstable, or even roll it over. That is also not to mention the possibility of a swaying trailer hitting a car in the next lane over.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy543
If you use a WD/sway control hitch you need to be aware that these hitches will diminish your tow vehicles handling characteristics, in particular, its ability to go around a turn. Here are some estimates of road holding g-force before losing control:
truck alone without trailer: 0.7g
truck towing trailer with simple ball mount: 0.5g
truck towing trailer with wd/sway control hitch: 0.3g
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OP, please note that this is absolute rubbish. No WD hitch makes it difficult to go around a curve. If there is a problem going around a curve, it is because you are driving too fast. The WD hitch has zero to do with that.
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2024 F-350 Crewcab 4x4 gasser
2024 Flying Cloud 28RBTwin
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