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07-15-2015, 05:45 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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New Easy Lift Hitch Design
Seems Easy Lift has a new anti sway weight distribution hitch design that will increase ground clearance a good bit by inverting the system.
Very interesting.
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07-15-2015, 07:46 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2003 30' Classic
Centerville
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Hmmm, so once the trailer is past 10 degrees, the sway control "turns off" That should make things interesting at 11 degrees.
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07-15-2015, 07:48 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
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The R6 is what I would need which has bars up to 1200lb bars for my heavy Classic 25fb.
I couldn't tell if you have to jack up the trailer to get the bars on the brackets. Looks like they used a tool.
The bars attach to the head behind the tongue coupler so the bars aren't rubbing on metal like the Equalizer.
I guess we'll have to wait for the reviews to come in.
Kelvin
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07-15-2015, 07:49 AM
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Rivet Master
2010 28' Flying Cloud
Lower Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by philipsinewe
Hmmm, so once the trailer is past 10 degrees, the sway control "turns off" That should make things interesting at 11 degrees.
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That caught my attention as well.
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07-15-2015, 07:54 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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A very interesting approach to address some of the shortcoming of a bar type WD hitch.
Having taken the sway control function away from the bars the hitch offer a much wider range to the WD aspects to the hitch. If adjusted correctly, to the needs of a given rig, this will result in a less harsh transfer of shock to the TV and trailer.
It is interesting to see that they have adapted a concept of sway control that all to many objected to when Andersen first introduced it.
The only issue not addressed is that of porpoising. Note that in the TV at the end of the video on what one would consider to be a smooth road. A function of the resonant frequency of the bars.
All in all I can see it meeting the requirements of those still in need of limited WD without sacrificing effective sway control.
While I have never experienced the so called difficulty of backing up with a WD I look forward to seeing just how the release aspect, coming off the detente, on the bars works. If that does in fact release the load on the sway control and did occur during a violent sway condition you could kiss it goodby. It is new and some rethink may be required.
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07-15-2015, 07:54 AM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
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Interesting indeed. Did they just make a cheaper version of some of the more expensive hitches with that pivoting head? Certainly looks that way.
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07-15-2015, 09:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HowieE
A very interesting approach to address some of the shortcoming of a bar type WD hitch.
Having taken the sway control function away from the bars the hitch offer a much wider range to the WD aspects to the hitch. If adjusted correctly, to the needs of a given rig, this will result in a less harsh transfer of shock to the TV and trailer.
It is interesting to see that they have adapted a concept of sway control that all to many objected to when Andersen first introduced it.
The only issue not addressed is that of porpoising. Note that in the TV at the end of the video on what one would consider to be a smooth road. A function of the resonant frequency of the bars.
All in all I can see it meeting the requirements of those still in need of limited WD without sacrificing effective sway control.
While I have never experienced the so called difficulty of backing up with a WD I look forward to seeing just how the release aspect, coming off the detente, on the bars works. If that does in fact release the load on the sway control and did occur during a violent sway condition you could kiss it goodby. It is new and some rethink may be required.
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This thread is not about the Andersen hitch. We all know that horse has been beat to death, but as I remember people were not skeptical of the Andersen's anti sway capabilities, but it's weight distribution capabilities, which has proven to be inadequate with large heavy tongued trailers. All anti sway WD hitches use at least some form of friction for that purpose, with the exception of the PPP type hitches.
Please don't turn this thread into another "my hitch is better than your hitch" type of thread.
I posted it simply to make everyone aware there was a new design available, and I know no more about it that those of you that have watched the video above.
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07-15-2015, 09:42 AM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
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Euro trailers have been using brake materials as Anti-sway for more than a decade.
The wording of the video has substantial room for debate about definitions.
Good to see another approach.
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07-15-2015, 09:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
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Just in case you didn't catch it, there are two similar types, R3 and R6, with the R3 being totally friction control, and the R6 uses some sort of spring detent system.
My take on it is the R3 will perform in a similar fashion as the Andersen, and the R6 will be more like the Reese Dual Cam, only without the adjustments.
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07-15-2015, 12:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
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Looks like the main difference is the bars go in from the top instead of the bottom... I like my Reese cam set up.....
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07-15-2015, 12:47 PM
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2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
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Looks like a Blue Ox Sway Pro.
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07-15-2015, 03:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1996 34' Excella
Elberta
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Interesting! I'm sure now that there's another hitch, to talk about, there will be a lot of hitch comments directed at the new one.....in the meantime, I'll keep what I have....
Let the arguements begine!
Larry
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07-15-2015, 04:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
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Yes, I'm not ready to trade my hitch either, but it is an interesting concept.
I have read no reports to date of the hitch's anti sway performance, but would expect the weight distribution performance would be on par with the normal Easy Lift.
Without performance reports, the only real advantage that I see right off is the increased ground clearance, if that is a problem in your type of trailering. That, and an "add-on" anti sway device should not be needed.
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07-15-2015, 05:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
Looks like a Blue Ox Sway Pro.
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Actually, it doesn't look anything like a Blue Ox Sway Pro, which uses chains that hook into a rotating bracket and straight, tapered weight distribution bars (which curve under load) below the trailer A-frame.
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07-15-2015, 07:17 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
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That is true. The saddles on the EazLift Pro Star are the same as all EazLift hitches- just lift up and over. The Blue Ox sway Pro has the Rotating cam like a Reese, right?
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07-17-2018, 07:05 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 23' Safari SE
Annandale
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A few weeks ago in Maine, I ever so briefly met a fellow AS owner at a campground where we were staying, but we were on our way home and packing up.
He noticed I had the EAZ Lift traditional and stopped by to let me know how very pleased he was with the new recurve he now has. We had less than a minute before he was called by his group to head out, but wish I had a chance to ask more questions.
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07-17-2018, 08:03 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 25' International
Joliet
, Illinois
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Fred
I've been running with the R6 for the past 3 years and might be able to answer some questions you have.
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07-19-2018, 10:30 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 23' Safari SE
Annandale
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Thanks Bel. After posting that I went to their website and watched their video that explains it well.
So only question I have at this point, is it worth throwing out my 1 yo EZ L traditional for the recurve
Am thinking not since mine seems to work well. The anti-sway bar is one extra hassle, but its not that much.
But would be interested to know what weight capacity you went with for your 25. If I move up to a 25 someday, that could be a good opportunity to change to the recurve.
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07-19-2018, 02:50 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 25' International
Joliet
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I also had the Eaz-Lift Elite hitch that I got from the previous owner of our 23D we had. Got very similar performance from both.
What I like about the R6 is how tucked up and close to the trailer frame the bars are. I no longer have the greasy bars to deal with (just a bit of spray lube on contact points). And it's super easy to adjust. Tilt the head and done! No more counting chain links and checking to see if the bars are parallel to the frame.
I can't say if it's worth it to throw out your brand new hitch, but I really like the R6 over the Elite.
For our 23D I used the 800lb bars and for 25RB I am using the 1000lb bars.
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07-20-2018, 08:58 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 23' Safari SE
Annandale
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Appreciate the input. Andy at Can Am has suggested the 1000 lb bars, so I went with those. My tongue weight is probably closer to 800 fully loaded though.
If the time comes to upgrade, the recurve will be first choice (as of now).
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