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Old 09-28-2020, 10:19 AM   #1
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Blue Ox bar weight advice

Newbies here, first post, need advice on Blue Ox Swaypro bars. We have a 2020 Ram 2500 CTD and are awaiting delivery on our 2021 Flying Cloud 25' FBT. After reading many related threads my question is given the actual tongue wt of around 1000# and having a 3/4 ton truck, do we go with 1000# or 1500# bars and why? Thanks in advance
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:25 AM   #2
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I have 1000# bars and a Tundra which provides a smooth ride. Going with stiffer bars on a 3/4 ton ride would be too stiff, IMO. I would suggest 1000#
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:32 AM   #3
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Thanks, I'm going to talk to the Blue Ox folks soon and wanted a few opinions first
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Old 09-28-2020, 11:12 AM   #4
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It's an informed guess without knowing actual TW...but I also would also start with 1k bars.

We have a 1200lb TW and move 720lb with 1k bars on our Hensley Arrow.

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Old 09-29-2020, 09:46 AM   #5
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My dealer suggested 1000lb. bars for my 25ft. FC. No sway at all, crossing OK in a 40 mph wind.
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Old 09-29-2020, 10:06 AM   #6
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I have had a Ram/Cummins 2500 and now have a Ram/Cummins 3500 for my AS 27 FB. I used and now use 1K Blue Ox Bars for both, and they worked and work fine. No problems --- altho I have eliminated the bar crank-up system and now use the strap method (Lippert Straptek), which I find to be a lot easier and safer.
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Yardbird54E, congratulations on your new Airstream! I have both 1000 and 1500# BlueOx bars for our 27’ Globetrotter and RAM 2500. I got the 1500# bars to try and shift more weight on our former tow vehicle.

I have towed with both on our RAM 2500 + GT and found the 1000# bars set to the 9th link from the loose end works just fine (3 1/2 links showing on the latch). Tongue weight on the Sherline scale is around 1100 lbs. loaded.

NOTE: I did have to get a longer drop shank to level the trailer when moving up to the RAM 2500. I got a Curt 2.5” from eTrailer since the 2500 uses a Class V hitch (no sleeve needed). I trimmed off the bottom part I didn’t need to shorten it up.

This setup has done a great job for us - no sway with passing semis or wind.

Good luck and happy camping!
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We have a 2014 RAM 2500 Cummins and 2018 Classic 30.

We use the "Blue Ox BXW1506 1500 lb Hitch (Clamp-On Latches, 11 Hole Shank)" and it works great for us.
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Old 09-29-2020, 06:46 PM   #9
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When I bought the 28’, the previous owner had 1000# bars. I replaced them with 1500# bars; the result was much improved weight distribution checked at the CAT scale. My tongue weight is 1200#. The rig does not bounce around now. There is a tight secure feeling.
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1000 v. 1500 bars - experiment

I was also on the fence when I confirmed that my tongue weight was 1050 lbs, and not the 780 lbs Airstream advertises.

I had started with 1000 lb bars for my FC27, which I had from my previous rig. They worked fine using the 9th link from the end (3 full links showing).

I decided to try the 1500 lbs bars and found I use need one less link (8 links from end - 4 links showing) to get the same weight distribution. On the road, the heavier bars are clearly better for me.

My TV is a F150 diesel which I'm sure has something to do with my situation. I plan to move to a F250 next year and sense backing down to the 1000 lb bars will be better. We'll see...
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I am also using a Blue Ox.
Ii bought my 23’ from folks w/a 2wheel drive truck. They had the hitch on the 4/6 holes. I drive a GMC Denali and had to have the service people drop the hitch down as low as they could..5/7 holes ..and the trailer still tilts back (too high at the hitch). When I spoke to the BO people they observed from my photos that I have 500# bars ( one dimple) and need to switch to a set of 1000# bars due to the hitch weight being 750#.
My question is this: Doesn’t the trailer need to be level in order to pull at optimum? And, if so, will the heavier sway bar level the trailer?
I started out thinking that I needed a hitch w/ 10 holes so I could lower the front end of the trailer but the BO rep didnt address that issue...only said I needed a heavier bar.
Any thoughts and opinions??
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Old 10-12-2020, 09:54 AM   #12
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No the heavier tension bars will not improve geometry to any significant degree. Yes, it should be level for several reasons. First to more evenly distribute weight to both axles. Also so that inertial forces are aligned with structural components and don't induce pitch moments including during braking, cornering, and accelerating. Suspension response is more correct and balanced as well.

Blue Ox makes a nine hole shank also but it sounds like even that is too high. The Blue Ox ball mount does fit the industry standard shank geometry so you don't have to use their shank. The 500# bars were a bit light so the upgrade is/was warranted.
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Old 10-13-2020, 05:56 AM   #13
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Thanks All

Thanks all for the good advice and well wishes. After consideration of said advice and talking to the Blue Ox rep on the phone I went with the 1000# bars. I upgraded the shank to the 9 hole, 2 1/2 inch to fit the class V receiver on the Ram, and was pleasantly surprised that the dreaded stamped metal wrench has been upgraded to a full socket breaker bar type wrench. Also just modified my garage door to 11ft high so I will have full indoor storage which comes in handy here in northern Michigan. Now just the wait for the Airstream...ETA December
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