Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-22-2011, 09:17 AM   #1
New Member
 
Currently Looking...
Ventura , California
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 2
Which tow vehicle to buy?

First time entry into this forum and I am looking for information. I am ready to buy a tow vehicle and my first airstream, and am shopping for both. I am looking for a 25' airstream and need information on the tow vehicle I should buy. Currently, I am shopping a Tundra and F-150. Any suggestions?
Thanks for the help...
__________________

Retiresoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 09:28 AM   #2
Rivet Master
 
Mikethefixit's Avatar
 
1977 27' Overlander
Trotwood , Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,153
Send a message via Yahoo to Mikethefixit
Two words buy american.
__________________

__________________
Roger & MaryLou
___________________
F350 CREWCAB SW LONG BED
7.3 liter Power Stroke Diesel
1977 27ft OVERLANDER
KA8LMQ
AIR # 22336 TAC- OH-7
May your roads be straight and smooth and may you always have a tailwind!
Mikethefixit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 09:45 AM   #3
Rivet Master
 
moparjohn's Avatar
 
1973 25' Tradewind
Bloomsbury , New Jersey
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 687
Images: 2
I agree

I'm a Mopar man myself, check out the new Ram, quite impressive, the Ford is a great truck also. MPJ
moparjohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 09:58 AM   #4
Rivet Master
 
Minno's Avatar

 
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington , Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,660
Find out the GVW rating of the trailer you want, and then find a TV that will tow that weight. Aim for no more than about 80% of the TV's towing capacity, especially if you plan on towing in mountains. After that, it's then a personal preference of what brand you buy. 1/2 ton trucks tend to ride smoother than 3/4 or 1 ton trucks. Also, a longer wheel base will tend to ride smoother too. Buy a good weight distributing hitch with sway control, and tow mirrors if the truck doesn't come with them. Don't buy bigger w/d bars than you need. In other words, don't buy 10,000 lb bars if your trailer only weighs 5,000 lbs.

Chris
Minno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 09:59 AM   #5
3 Rivet Member
 
smhx4's Avatar
 
2012 30' International
Scott AFB , Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 140
Images: 5
We've been very happy with the quality and performance of our 08 Tundra. No truck is all American. Just more American parts or employs more Americans than another.
smhx4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 10:08 AM   #6
Rivet Master
 
Florida 55's Avatar

 
2008 27' Safari FB SE
Pfafftown , North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 903
Images: 42
Blog Entries: 4
My wife and I are in exactly the same place you are except we are still looking at both 25' and 27'. We have decided to go 1/2 ton tow vehicle and are currently leaning toward the Ford F150 crew cab with the max tow package and Ecoboost engine. Having driven the prospective TV my only concern is the engine is in its first year and unproven in real service. The endurance testing Ford has done on this engine is impressive and the initial comments on the Ford truck blogs from actual users are so far very positive for both fuel economy and towing.
Florida 55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 10:45 AM   #7
Rivet Master
 
1986 31' Sovereign
Miami , Florida
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,208
Blog Entries: 13
The odometer on my 2004 Titan just clicked over 123000 miles (about 45000 of it towing the Sovereign) with nary a glitch (knock on wood). There was a service bulletin on the brakes and on a relay.

That being said, if I was buying a replacement, I'd seriously consider the Ford w/Ecoboost and the Tundra.

Sure a 3/4 ton with a diesel will let you roar up the long inclines but the huge difference in price is hard to make up over the life of your truck unless you are planning to keep it for 400,000 miles.

Me, I get in the pokey lane in 3rd and do 45 up the hill.

Get a good w/d hitch and have fun!

mike
n2916s is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 11:01 AM   #8
Rivet Master
 
Splitrock's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
Sioux Falls , South Dakota
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,403
Blog Entries: 20
If I'm gonna camp, I'd get me a pickup. If I'm gonna use hookup campgrounds, I'll go with a Yukon XL.
__________________
Click on the link to see a picture of the Sioux River falls near my home.
https://visitsiouxfalls.com/assets/i...uxfalls-og.jpg
Eastern South Dakota is very pretty with hills, rivers, and trees.
Splitrock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 01:20 PM   #9
2 Rivet Member
 
2008 28' Safari SE
Punta Gorda , Florida
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 30
I just purchased a Safari 28 and a F-150. The F-150 is a 2X4 SuperCrew with the Ecoboost and max. tow package. To date, I have only pulled the AS in FL, so my experience is over flat ground. I am extreemly pleased and if I had it to do over I would not change a thing. The principle features I like about the truck are the comfort of the seats, the sound insulation is supurb, I ordered the tailgate step which is the ticket, the roomness in the entire cabin and the tow mirrors. According to the onboard computer I am getting 12.5 MPG under tow. Thus far, the Ecoboost has ample of power to spare. I leave for the mountains in a week or so which could alter my position. I also have an Equalizer hitch which I am pleased with; although messy.
John Dibble
mysecondjoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 01:44 PM   #10
Rivet Master
 
dkottum's Avatar
 
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake , Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,716
All of the current half tons (with adequate tow options) are capable of handling the 25'. Which is best is a contentious subject. Do your research and shop the best deal, used late model price savings can buy a lot of gas, then drive it decently and maintain it. It will last a long time.

More importantly, buy the trailer first. You may end up with your best deal on, say a 30' trailer, and the truck not up to it.

Doug K
dkottum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 01:54 PM   #11
CLOUDSPLITTER "Tahawus"
 
ROBERT CROSS's Avatar

 
2003 25' Classic
Zanadude Nebula , Milky Way
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 14,883
Images: 1
Thumbs up

Better to have more than you need, than need more than you got...


You will get an abundance of opinions.

This was our choice....
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	piseco_20lake_20camping_20july_202008_20020.jpg
Views:	129
Size:	94.9 KB
ID:	130414  
__________________
"Any nation that can survive what we have lately in the way of government, is on the high road to permanent glory."
Molly Ivins

"Instead of going to ’Starbucks…I make my own Coffee at home, yell out my name rong, then light a five dollar bill on fire"
Amanamus


Tahawus....🌥
ROBERT CROSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 01:58 PM   #12
New Member
 
Currently Looking...
Ventura , California
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 2
Thanks for all of the advice.

Does the axle ratio matter?
Retiresoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 02:30 PM   #13
CLOUDSPLITTER "Tahawus"
 
ROBERT CROSS's Avatar

 
2003 25' Classic
Zanadude Nebula , Milky Way
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 14,883
Images: 1
Yes...the same TV with 4:10 will have a higher rating than one with 3:70's.
__________________
"Any nation that can survive what we have lately in the way of government, is on the high road to permanent glory."
Molly Ivins

"Instead of going to ’Starbucks…I make my own Coffee at home, yell out my name rong, then light a five dollar bill on fire"
Amanamus


Tahawus....🌥
ROBERT CROSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 03:14 PM   #14
Rivet Master
 
Splitrock's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
Sioux Falls , South Dakota
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,403
Blog Entries: 20
I bought one tow vehicle new and the other used. I bought both with axles designed for economy non towing. Both are automatics, both are 4 wheel drives, and for the one hill between here and Minneapolis, I select down on the transmission selector with no problems when towing.

I buy a tow vehicle like I buy a dining room table. If I have 12 people at the table very day, I buy a table that's comfortable for 12 people. If I tow every day, I buy a transport vehicle.

I seldom tow and going forward, I expect to seldom tow, so I have a couple vehicles I can tow with comfortably a few hundred miles. My dining room table seats 4, and expands to six. We have additional casual seating for 9 more.

Glad you're posting. Hope all your travels are happy times.

Gary
__________________
Click on the link to see a picture of the Sioux River falls near my home.
https://visitsiouxfalls.com/assets/i...uxfalls-og.jpg
Eastern South Dakota is very pretty with hills, rivers, and trees.
Splitrock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 04:21 PM   #15
Master of Universe
 
Gene's Avatar
 
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction , Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 11,684
It has been posted on the Forum that the Tundra has more American parts than Ford, Chevy and Dodge. That seems to confuse the Buy American issue.

Our Tundra easily tows our 25'. I'm sure it would do well with a 27' or a 28'. With 1/2 ton trucks the issue is payload—weight of driver, passengers, cargo, tongue weight.

Toyota's vehicles are not made as well as they used to be, but still may be more reliable than anyone else's trucks.

If I were buying a tow vehicle today I'd check Chevy, Ford and Toyota—test drive, check specs, check reviews. There are endless threads here about what truck is best—do a search and read them and possibly get more confused.

Most everyone who will post has the best truck ever made.

Gene
Gene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 06:55 PM   #16
Rivet Master
 
Silver Otter's Avatar

 
2011 31' Classic
Nellysford , Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,048
Images: 8
Blog Entries: 1
We just got our Excella two months ago. We looked at 25s and 27s but settled on a 30. Our GMC 1500 5.3 V8 was not up to the challenge. We did a LOT of research on a replacement TV. Knowledgeable mechanics pointed me away from Ford and Dodge, and to the 2007-2008 GMC or Chevy 2500HD 6.6 diesel with the Allison tranny. Got our 2008 Chevy and just got home from the first trip pulling with it. Heaven on Earth in the hilly Blue Ridge of Virginia compared to the gassey.
__________________
Linda Heuer, Past President, Spirit of Virginia Club
Greg Heuer, President, Spirit of Virginia Club
2011 31' Classic Ltd. - The Silver Otter III
2013 GMC Denali 2500HD 6.6 DuraMax - Sierra Blanca
TAC VA-18 | WBAC 1927 - Spirit of Virginia Club | AIR 53869
Silver Otter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 07:46 PM   #17
Rivet Master
 
A W Warn's Avatar

 
2000 25' Safari
1999 34' Excella
Davidson County , North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,141
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retiresoon View Post
Thanks for all of the advice.

Does the axle ratio matter?
If you get a 6 speed transmission the gear ratio can be higher, for better fuel milage.

I tow a 25' Safari with a 1/2 ton 2010 Chevy Crew with a 6 speed tranny with a 5.3L gasser geared 3.42. I tow in the Appalachains regularly without a problem. I also pulled a 30' Excella with this truck untill last fall, but the trailer was too heavy in the mountains. Towing on flat or low hilly land from Michigan to Florida was ok.

My prior truck, a 2000 Chevy extended cab 4 door, had a 4 speed tranny with a 5.3L gasser geared 3.73. I puilled a 30' Excella ok in the flat lands, but going downhill in the mountains was not good. The truck was to light for the 30' trailer. I put 230,000 miles on this truck. Replaced water pump, alternator, battery, and brakes around 120,000 miles. Nothing else other than regular scheduled maintenance and tires.

If you go above a 25' trailer length I reccomend a 3/4 ton or larger if you go to the mountains.
Buy American made!
A W Warn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 07:55 PM   #18
Capt W
 
2013 31' Classic
Jefferson , Massachusetts
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 78
Images: 1
Blog Entries: 1
Just got through what you are facing. We bought a 25' Safari then bought the Ford F-250 Superduty diesel. A big factor was the positive reports about this truck from so many and our own impression when driving it. It is certainly more truck than needed for the 25 footer, but we took into consideration the possibility of upsizing in the future.
While we only have 1,500 miles on the truck and less than 600 towing the trailer we are very pleased. We have a good weight distribution hitch but no anti-sway system. We have not experienced any problems with sway so far despite being passed by many big rigs. My wife, who had no previous towing experience felt comfortable on the highway driving the TV with the AS.
Fuel economy is impressive, 20mpg without and 14mpg with the trailer.

It is quiet and with the full size cab, has plenty of room for passengers. It comes with 5 years of roadside assistance (lock out, fuel, flat tire).

We were able to get a deep discount from the sticker price due to current economic conditions. We are very happy with this truck so far.

Hope this helps.
__________________
Wayne and Sarah

Welcome aboard, Mary Joan, the Tin Wheeler

https://www.tinwheel.blogspot.com
wrochdvm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 08:32 PM   #19
Liberator
 
klattu's Avatar
 
1972 Argosy 24
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Heart of Dixie , Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,659
Images: 834
You get a much better trans, brakes, tires in a 3/4 ton
__________________
Your opinion is valued, please not your opinion of someones else's opinion.
Click To See Me Wet
1989 Airstream 345 Liberator...
1972 Argosy 24'...
1954 Feathercraft Vagabond
klattu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2011, 08:36 PM   #20
Capt W
 
2013 31' Classic
Jefferson , Massachusetts
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 78
Images: 1
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by klattu View Post
You get a much better trans, brakes, tires in a 3/4 ton
Yes, that was another factor in our decision. Plus, we are far from maxing out the capabilities of the TV
__________________

__________________
Wayne and Sarah

Welcome aboard, Mary Joan, the Tin Wheeler

https://www.tinwheel.blogspot.com
wrochdvm is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tow vehicle wheel base flynmike Tow Vehicles 15 05-09-2011 08:27 PM
Tow Vehicle for 27' Overlander pyrenees Tow Vehicles 9 05-06-2011 08:18 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.