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Old 10-20-2017, 06:35 PM   #341
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In stopped traffic I used to shut off the extra stuff that ran off the 12V battery. The motor had its own 144V pack.
So on a hot day, you would actually turn off the air conditioning, just to minimize the drain on the battery, even though the stopped traffic would be moving again soon, and your battery would then get fully charged?

I am confused as to why you would "shut off the extra stuff," and what this would entail. Plus the logic . . . ?

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Old 10-21-2017, 07:14 AM   #342
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So on a hot day, you would actually turn off the air conditioning, just to minimize the drain on the battery, even though the stopped traffic would be moving again soon, and your battery would then get fully charged?

I am confused as to why you would "shut off the extra stuff," and what this would entail. Plus the logic . . . ?

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Vehicle did not have air conditioning.
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Old 10-21-2017, 08:04 AM   #343
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Many Teslas also evacuated. Chargers were up the whole time. Did all gas stations have gas?
I had no problem getting gas.
"Chargers were up the whole time." What does that mean?
You mean they never lost power? Hard to believe, everyone I know lost power for a while.
But let's say they never lost power. How long does it take to charge a Tesla so it can go 200 miles? Once a car is using the charger, the other cars are stuck waiting. If I wait for gas it's 20 minutes, it I wait for a charger it's???

This is like trying to convince someone who buys the latest Apple product that the i-phone 8 may not be the best phone. "What? no, I stood in line to get this phone."
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:02 AM   #344
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I had no problem getting gas.
"Chargers were up the whole time." What does that mean?
You mean they never lost power? Hard to believe, everyone I know lost power for a while.
But let's say they never lost power. How long does it take to charge a Tesla so it can go 200 miles? Once a car is using the charger, the other cars are stuck waiting. If I wait for gas it's 20 minutes, it I wait for a charger it's???

This is like trying to convince someone who buys the latest Apple product that the i-phone 8 may not be the best phone. "What? no, I stood in line to get this phone."
No, I don't think that even makes sense as an analogy.

I get it, you aren't convinced on a technology that you have absolutely no experience with. Good enough.

There was a long discussion among those with experience driving both EV and ICE here. Certainly pros and cons, but not something to dismiss out of hand without the benefit of education or experience on the technologies.
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I had no problem getting gas.
"Chargers were up the whole time." What does that mean?
You mean they never lost power? Hard to believe, everyone I know lost power for a while.
But let's say they never lost power. How long does it take to charge a Tesla so it can go 200 miles? Once a car is using the charger, the other cars are stuck waiting. If I wait for gas it's 20 minutes, it I wait for a charger it's???

This is like trying to convince someone who buys the latest Apple product that the i-phone 8 may not be the best phone. "What? no, I stood in line to get this phone."
I don't think most people make a vehicle choice based on what happens in a state emergency. I don't see anyone trying to sell EVs on here. And there aren't a whole lot of opinions based on having actually driven one.
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:05 AM   #346
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No, I don't think that even makes sense as an analogy.
of course.

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I get it, you aren't convinced on a technology that you have absolutely no experience with. Good enough.
I have no experience with robbing a bank, but that doesn't mean I can't have an opinion.

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There was a long discussion among those with experience driving both EV and ICE Certainly pros and cons, but not something to dismiss out of hand without the benefit of education or experience on the technologies.
I just asked a simple question, "How long does it take to charge a Tesla to go 200 miles?"
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I just asked a simple question, "How long does it take to charge a Tesla to go 200 miles?"


About 20 minutes.
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:31 AM   #348
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FYI if the discussion needs to heat up any more, The Argue Thread is here:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f161...ead-60297.html



Also FYI ohmman has a long thread with lots of interesting discussions about Towing With his Tesla X:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...-x-160951.html

As I commented on that thread, and on this one too perhaps, we test drove a Model X last summer, and it was indeed an eye opener.

The future is here.

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PS -- It is a shame when folks get hot under the collar about the entire subject matter of electric vehicles, hybrids and so forth. Aggressive posts diminish the discussion IMO, and eventually result in threads being closed.
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No need to close a thread.
I like a spirited discussion, but I'll bow out.
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Buy your F-150 and pay really huge dollars for it, as increased prices and profits from trucks sales are paying for electric car development.

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Old 11-15-2017, 07:52 PM   #351
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Tesla today opened two new 40-stall charging stations in California. I'm guessing they'll be discussing them tomorrow when they reveal the Tesla Truck (semi).

Photo attached from Tesla Motors Club when they first pulled the cones. The location of this one is on I-5 so it'll be pretty active most days.
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Old 11-16-2017, 01:14 AM   #352
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Thanks. Looks like your rig towing the AS could pull through with the trailer hitched up, or is the entry/exit a little tight for this? [hard to tell from the single photo]

Thanks again for your thread about towing with the Model X:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...-x-160951.html

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Looks to maximize use (two ports) as opposed to providing a pull through for a trailer. But pulling in on the outside location at the end (near side) should allow a charge without blocking a port. Maybe an option? Pat
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:14 AM   #354
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Some of these Superchargers are located near a truckstop or a Starbucks. Some have their own lounges.

Question: are the lounges only for Tesla owners, or can I just drive up and buy a cup of coffee? Do you need a Tesla key fob to get in? Are they peopled with a concierge/custodian?
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:26 AM   #355
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Most of the existing lounges are paired with a service center. This is the first Supercharger only lounge. Reports are that it is staffed until 8pm (but open 24/7) and requires a pin code to enter. The car provides you the current PIN on the center console as you pull into the lot. So it seems itís generally Tesla only. There is no general parking anyway, so youíd have to block a charger to stay, and obviously that would be frowned upon.

I likely wonít charge here with the AS. There are lots of other Tesla options along that route and most have easier ingress/egress. Harris Ranch is a good example of one about 30 miles away that is very easy.
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For those who missed it, the Tesla Semi was announced last night. Some features:
  • 80,000GVWR
  • 500 miles of range at highway speeds with full load (above number)
  • 30 minutes to charge to 400 miles of range
  • 0-60 in 5.0 seconds with or without trailer
  • 0-60 in 20 seconds with full load
  • Driver in center of cab with panoramic windshield
  • Four battery packs and four motors with full redundancy (can lose two motors and still drive)

You can see it here: http://www.tesla.com/semi

I won't be buying one to haul my Airstream, but it does set a nice profile for a smaller version of a TV (Tesla pickup, perhaps).

Edit: So far, they've had orders from Walmart, J.B. Hunt, Loblaw's Grocery, and a couple of smaller orders.
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So the title of this thread is "When to go electric for a tow vehicle" .

For all practical purposes probably in the next 5 years for late early adopters . Then within the next 10 years for anyone else . This based on whats available today BUT if there is EV pickups in the major manufactures pipelines now that could speed things up.

Of course more highway high speed charging stations along with a rural infrastructure would complete the transition .
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So the title of this thread is "When to go electric for a tow vehicle" .

For all practical purposes probably in the next 5 years for late early adopters . Then within the next 10 years for anyone else . This based on whats available today BUT if there is EV pickups in the major manufactures pipelines now that could speed things up.

Of course more highway high speed charging stations along with a rural infrastructure would complete the transition .


Agree
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Old 11-22-2017, 11:52 AM   #359
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As a Tesla owner, I will never buy another internal combustion engined car. I do have solar panels on my house so I no longer have to dig up coal in my backyard.

A truck is a different matter at this time. Mercedes is actively developing commercial electric trucks and now Tesla is promising an electric semi truck by 2019. Iím not sure of the reality but 80,000 cargo capacity and 400 miles between quick charges starts to look practical. Tesla has struggled a little lately getting Model 3 production rolling but Models S and X have hit all the targets from a real world practical point of view. Weíll see if the Tesla semi hitís 2019 goal but donít rule it out. If so, how far behind could a electric truck to tow our Airstreams be?
By the way, one of the activities at Teslaís giga factory is lithium battery recycling.
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:39 PM   #360
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A Model X P100D was parked next to me at the bread store.

It was a lot beefier looking than the first Model X I saw about a year ago.

The owner offered me a ride around the block but I declined because I knew I would need to buy one. Loved the hinged rear doors. Inside looked like a space ship.
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