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66Overlander · 10-13-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS

Hi, Don't take this personal, but so many Hummer owners relate their vehicles with the millitary Hummers. Mostly they just look similar. Not the same vehicle. When they brag about their off road abilities, in which they have never personally done, but only read about, I tell them to follow me through the forest and as soon as I go between those two trees with my Jeep CJ-5 the contest is over. Hummers are good vehicles for what they really are. And Hummer's biggest draw back is the owners that bought them to intimidate Miata owners.

Bob

People buy Hummers for a variety of reasons. It frustrates me that some assume we all bought them for the same reasons - stereotypes are bad. It also frustrates me that some only buy their Hummers to "bling" them up, like 26" wheels are ever gonna go off road. But those sales do keep the volume up enough to keep the vehicle around for others like me to buy. The H2 is a capable off road vehicle, but it does have it's limitations - I've got a few scratches to prove it.

I also get it the other way - I get so many comments like "Oh off roading in an H2 - that's like when you back over the flower bed" - yeah right. Not the best photo, but here's one of me up on 3 wheels at the Hummer Homecoming at the AM General Proving Grounds this year (before I got it dirty):

Denis4x4 · 10-14-2006, 06:05 AM

Hummer perspective....one of the AM General honchos had a second home in Telluride and I've seen photos of H-1 prototypes on Black Bear Road. This is a serious 4x4 venue......In the late ninties, we had 12 H-1's particpate in the Telluride 4x4 Tour and I had the opportunity to drive one. No sweat, even on narrow trails. The H-2 is an excellent off-road vehicle.

However, when I was looking at TV's, the H-2 lacked the towing capacity that I felt comfortable with.

You want to have some real fun, check out the trailerable sailboat forums. You'll see threads asking, "Can I tow my Catalina 22 with a Honda Civic?".
I kid you not!

66Overlander · 10-14-2006, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS

Hi, Don't take this personal, but . . . I tell them to follow me through the forest and as soon as I go between those two trees with my Jeep CJ-5 the contest is over.

Bob

Hey, in keeping with the theme of good natured jest. How's that CJ-5 do pulling your Airstream?

Yeah, I already knew you had another vehicle for that purpose.

At least in my case the H2 is a vehicle that does a variety of things reasonably well. How does the old saying go "Jack of all trades, master of none"?

ROBERTSUNRUS · 10-14-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 66Overlander

Hey, in keeping with the theme of good natured jest. How's that CJ-5 do pulling your Airstream?

Yeah, I already knew you had another vehicle for that purpose.

At least in my case the H2 is a vehicle that does a variety of things reasonably well. How does the old saying go "Jack of all trades, master of none"?

Hi, 66 Overlander. I bought my Jeep brand new in 1978. It had a 304 V-8, manual trans, manual transfer case, and manual locking hubs. This was a serious Jeep. No foo- foo junk. I used it for ten years and sold it in 1988. As for towing; I towed a 1959 Ford Galaxie from San Luis Obispo to Lakewood, Ca. The car weighed more than the Jeep and the jeep brakes did all of the stopping. Driveing at freeway speeds on the freeways with a very very short 83" wheel base, counter acting they sway of the towed car by anticipated reverse steering for several hundred miles, I can tell you, I'm the king of white knuckle driveing. [Never again] [Young and stupid] My other towing experience, although relatively short, I rented a Bobcat from a local rental yard. God knows how much a Bobcat weighs, but I think the trailer they put the Bobcat on weighed more than my Jeep CJ-5 by it's self. As for towing an Airstream, Not even a Bambi, H*ll no. But I wish I still had the Jeep just for the purpose of getting my trailer in and out of my driveway.

Bob

klattu · 10-24-2006, 03:28 AM

Blinging a H/1-2-3...
See the movie "CARS"
At the end, I think during credits...the 'Jeep' guy is giving off road class to a group of SUVs,
There is a Hummer in the group, all blinged up, 22"+ wheels etc...he is tip-toeing, whinning about getting off the pavement, saying he has never been off road.

There is very little time to laugh during the show, so much to watch.

dbradhstream · 10-24-2006, 07:21 AM

I rented an H-2 for a week last year in Colorado - we had reserved a standard sedan but heavy snow required 4x4 and Hertz was having a special on H-2s, so away we went. I loved it; the wife loved it; the kids really loved it. Took us everywhere we even thought about going despite icy conditions. I'd love to have one but am not certain about the towing ability if we ever got a AS with a slideout, which we hope to do in the future. Still, the H-2 was great and I'd get one in a second except for my towing concerns.