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04-02-2013, 07:04 PM
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Rivet Master 
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Upcoming Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel
They say the 4X4 will pull 7200lbs. Anyone else interested in this jeep diesel V6?
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04-02-2013, 07:21 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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I think this is ideal for Airstreams such as mine, and a decent daily driver as well.
But if it comes in $15,000 to $20,000 more than than a Ram 1500 with the same power train (due this fall), I would probably choose the pickup.
doug k
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04-02-2013, 07:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Personally I would like to see the diesel offered. I might even be tempted to trade in my F150.
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Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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04-02-2013, 09:40 PM
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Rivet Master 
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
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04-02-2013, 10:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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04-03-2013, 06:38 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' Classic
Trenton
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It sounds very similar to my VW Touareg diesel which has been a fantastic tow vehicle/daily driver. I don't even try to argue how good the small SUV with small diesel is because it's too hard to describe the astounding performance without folks thinking your full of it. They tune out when they hear 17 mpg towing because they don't believe it. You really just need to experience it to believe it.
Perhaps the Jeep 3.0 will replace my VW when it hits 400,000 miles in 2020. Diesel rules!
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04-03-2013, 08:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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I would actually rather see a diesel offered in the new 2014 Cherokee. That looks like one sweet ride. Tow rateing is currently only 4500 lbs with the V6 gas. Might be a bit higher with a diesel (????).
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Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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04-03-2013, 11:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
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Doug
I am confused. The specs for the link you listed above shows the same drivetrain for the 2013 Cherokee as the 2014 Cherokee- 3.6 V6 and 8 speed tranny. The specs I listed in my previous posting link shows a four cylinder and a 3.2L V6 with a 9 speed tranny. Neither link mentions a diesel.
Dan
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04-03-2013, 12:01 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
raleigh
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The GRAND Cherokee will be available with a diesel engine. Production will start in May.
The Cherokee does not come with a diesel. www.jeep.com
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04-03-2013, 12:30 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
Puyallup
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the previous Jeep Grand Cherokee with the MB diesel was not a big seller - hopefully they got it right this time
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04-03-2013, 12:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Dan you made the initial mistake that I did. Grand Cherokee will have the diesel. Regular smaller Cherokee sadly no diesel - yet.
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Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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04-03-2013, 01:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
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My mistake. A Cherokee is not a G Cherokee. I did not realize that the Grand Cherokee and the Cherokee are two completely different models. That is why the specs in the two different links don't line up.
Dan
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04-05-2013, 02:26 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
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Well, it's an easy mistake to make.
Jeep should have given the "Grand" Cherokee a different name. It's not like a different name is so difficult to come up with.
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04-05-2013, 02:50 PM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airstreamer67
Well, it's an easy mistake to make.
Jeep should have given the "Grand" Cherokee a different name. It's not like a different name is so difficult to come up with.
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Except that they have a long history of selling both a Cherokee and a Grand Cherokee. I can't say why they did it initially, but I think they may have been ashamed to call the smaller top-line model a Wagoneer (as they had done previously.)
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04-14-2013, 04:01 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1991 29' Excella
Akron
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Quoting airstreamguy.com - ** Airstream Lengths, Weights and Tongue Weight
1991 EXCELLA 29 foot, 5600 dry wt, 700 hitch wt
And quoting 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee | Eco Diesel Engine Capabilities | Jeep
When properly equipped, (2014) Grand Cherokee can tow a Best-in-Class+ 7,400-pounds+. Additionally, its Trailer Sway Control (TSC) reduces trailer sway and improves handling in adverse towing conditions caused by crosswinds, traffic and improper weight distribution on the trailer. When an excessively swaying trailer is recognized by the system, the TSC automatically kicks into action.Other features available include: Trailer Tow Group IV.
Any thoughts on this? I *like* Jeep a lot but not sure if I have too big a trailer to pull this off. BTW, Akron and eastern Ohio is hilly!
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04-14-2013, 04:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
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I have a 2012 Grand Cherokee Overland with the Hemi V8 and tow a 20' Argosy which has a 715 # hitch weight and a 4200# total weight. It is a very nice combination, in all ways, but I am not sure that a 29' would be as comfortable a ride. Maybe, but it would be pushing the limits a bit in my opinion. However, the Jeep GC does weigh in at 5200# itself, so not that far off the trailer weight you would have, what? 3000# less? It is also the length vs the wheelbase of the Jeep which could be a problem.
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04-14-2013, 05:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 30' International
1997 25' Safari
1967 20' Globetrotter
Burlington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aireseneca
Quoting airstreamguy.com - Airstream Lengths, Weights and Tongue Weight
1991 EXCELLA 29 foot, 5600 dry wt, 700 hitch wt
And quoting 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee | Eco Diesel Engine Capabilities | Jeep
When properly equipped, (2014) Grand Cherokee can tow a Best-in-Class+ 7,400-pounds+. Additionally, its Trailer Sway Control (TSC) reduces trailer sway and improves handling in adverse towing conditions caused by crosswinds, traffic and improper weight distribution on the trailer. When an excessively swaying trailer is recognized by the system, the TSC automatically kicks into action.Other features available include: Trailer Tow Group IV.
Any thoughts on this? I *like* Jeep a lot but not sure if I have too big a trailer to pull this off. BTW, Akron and eastern Ohio is hilly! |
There are a number of threads regarding the GC and towing, and quite a few differing opinions on how appropriate they are for towing large Airstreams. How ever, from those of us that actually do it, the overwhelming majority love their Diesel Jeep tow vehicles. I am one of those. The Jeep now has about 280,000 k on it, still works beautifully, and I will get a new one as soon as they are available. Jim
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04-14-2013, 06:39 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1991 29' Excella
Akron
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by idroba
It is also the length vs the wheelbase of the Jeep which could be a problem.
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Is there a guide to matching up length vs the wheelbase? Any research suggestions?
What I need to find is a vehicle that can tow a few (3-5) times a year and be driven as my main everyday ride. I'm just not comfortable tooling around in a big truck when I don't need one. But....Airstream.....hummmm.... 
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04-14-2013, 06:56 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
San Antonio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TinLoaf
I don't even try to argue how good the small SUV with small diesel is because it's too hard to describe the astounding performance without folks thinking you're full of it.
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Yep, those of us who've enjoyed the capabilities provided by such a combination can be happy to hear there are more choices coming.
I really hope this Jeep becomes a good seller, because Detroit should look hard at the future of small diesel trucks.
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04-15-2013, 07:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Cat City
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TinLoaf
It sounds very similar to my VW Touareg diesel which has been a fantastic tow vehicle/daily driver. I don't even try to argue how good the small SUV with small diesel is because it's too hard to describe the astounding performance without folks thinking your full of it. They tune out when they hear 17 mpg towing because they don't believe it. You really just need to experience it to believe it.
Perhaps the Jeep 3.0 will replace my VW when it hits 400,000 miles in 2020. Diesel rules!
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I just tuned in. 17 MPG towing? Do you need to add urea or whatever it is to your diesel? Is it noisy?
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