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Old 08-10-2020, 11:53 AM   #1
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Towing with "pizza cutter" tires?

My 2005 2500HD has a torsion lift and factory 16x6.5 wheels. It currently has 285/75R16s. This tire is too wide, minimum spec is a 7.5" wheel, and I broke a belt on one while towing the Airstream this weekend.

Because it is lifted I'd like to maintain a 33" tire, but have a correct size for the wheel width. That leaves me with one tire size option: 255/85R16. This tire is about the same width as the OEM tires, just taller. Hoping the narrower tread will also aid in fuel economy. The truck got 12-13mpg on this weekends trip to the highest point in Arkansas. There are few options in this size and they are all aggressive off-road tires. I've pretty much narrowed it down to the BFG KM3 Mud-Terrain.

Does anyone have an experience with towing on tires like these?

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Old 08-10-2020, 12:14 PM   #2
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I have towed alot with BFG ATs. I ran them over 20 years on one of my trucks. No complaints....I don't think I would like the noise of the Mud Terrains.
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I have towed alot with BFG ATs. I ran them over 20 years on one of my trucks. No complaints....I don't think I would like the noise of the Mud Terrains.
I would probably jump on K02s if they were available in the needed size.
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I would probably jump on K02s if they were available in the needed size.


That is what I run on and would suggest.
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Old 08-11-2020, 09:49 AM   #5
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Tip #1 - Buy some slightly wider wheels. You have plenty of room in the wheel wells.

Tip #2 - Unless you spend a lot of time off-road in mud get All Terrain tires. Mud Terrains have 20% to 30% less rubber on asphalt and wear much more quickly on a 3/4 ton truck. You'll also get worse mileage with Mud Terrains due to greater unsprung weight. Most importantly, your braking distances will be 4 to 5 feet longer at 55 MPH without the Airstream...probably 10+ feet longer pulling your trailer.

Tip #3 - Look at Cooper Discoverer ST's. I had run one set each of Goodyears and BFG tires on our Dodge 2500 with limited mileage results. Found Cooper Discoverer ST's were being used by our local energy utility (we live in the Sierra foothills) for their off road trucks. Tried a set and got 30% more wear than the prior Goodyear MT's and BFG All Terrains. They also have excellent traction off road and in snow...and pretty good in mild mud. Last month, I pulled a Fish and Game 1 Ton backwards up a muddy hill when they got stuck planting fish in a lake. Two half tons with MT tires had spun out trying before I helped the driver (ok, I admit that throttle control may have helped me and the F&G driver too...but the Coopers worked great).
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Old 08-11-2020, 11:14 AM   #6
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Switching to the OEM Hummer H2 wheels would get me slightly wider 17's, but I'm a huge fan of the OEM 16x6.5 wheels.

I always do this to myself, and pick odd sizes that limit my tire options to a small group of abnormal tires. I run 2" wider than original, but OEM 16" wheels on my 80's Porsche 911 and that gives me two options for tires. I drive the car hard all over the country and in the past two years have run through 3 or 4 sets of DOT legal, but not for street use R-compound tires.

Now I'm looking hard at the Toyo MT tires. A little taller, stiffer and wider than the BFG option.
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Why not use Goodyear Endurance tires? Their 255/85R16 is 33” in diameter and will work on a 6.5” rim.
https://m.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Endurance&pa rtnum=585NR6END&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=y es
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Why not use Goodyear Endurance tires? Their 255/85R16 is 33” in diameter and will work on a 6.5” rim.
https://m.tirerack.com/tires/tires.j...omCompare1=yes
Because those are trailer tires.
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Old 08-11-2020, 02:31 PM   #9
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I have 16” non radial E rated truck tires , works fine.
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I was admiring your picture of your truck towing your trailer. Pardon my ignorance but why don’t you want to install a tire designed for a trailer on your trailer? Am I missing something?
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I was admiring your picture of your truck towing your trailer. Pardon my ignorance but why don’t you want to install a tire designed for a trailer on your trailer? Am I missing something?
Haha, yes. We're talking about tires for the truck!
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Mr. Merk,
I just put on some new Cooper AT3 all terrain 10 ply tires, Mine happen to be 20" but I'll bet Norm's in B'Ville has them instock in your size. Just not sure if they would fit your wheels?? They are much quieter than I expected. Not much different from my Goodyear LT road tires the truck came with. They got me out the door with a front end alignment, balancing and road hazard for right at $1100.00 No one else around could touch it on 10 ply tires.
Good luck with whatever you decide to go with!
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10 ply rated equals an E load tire...plies don't apply.

I've always used Michelin E load on the TV.

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You’d definitely want those “pizza cutter” tires on your truck if you lived where it snows a lot in the winter. (Living in WA, I don’t run anything but snow tires on my truck (year round.)
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Mr. Merk,
I just put on some new Cooper AT3 all terrain 10 ply tires,
I considered Cooper ST Maxx as it is available in my size but it is quite a bit shorter than the BFG or Toyo options.

Lots of good advice in this thread but unfortunately most of the options mentioned aren't available in tall & skinny.
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Go to etrailer they have what you are looking for
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Go to etrailer they have what you are looking for
How so?


Ended up ordering a set of 5 Toyo Open Country MT in 255/85R16. They'll be here tomorrow. We'll see how she handles.
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worn 285/75R16 Terra Grappler vs new 255/75r16 Toyot MT. you can see the broken belt on the top of the 285




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Those certainly have some meat to them. Should feel plenty supportive in curves. I hope they are fairly quiet on the road for you.
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You could go to 265/75's on 1 ton SRW (single rear wheel) Chevy/GMC OEM wheels. 265's only require 7" rims and that's what these are, 7". Lots of those SRW wheels available in the junk yards. No fittment problems whatsoever.
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