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Old 07-07-2015, 03:05 PM   #1
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Towing with Jeep Eco Diesel

Anyone know if I can tow a International 27 with the Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 Liter Eco Diesel in the mountains out west. Would I need a Hensley or Pro Ride?
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Old 07-07-2015, 03:14 PM   #2
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Check the trailer life towing guide and take note of the required equipment required.

Do a google search for it.
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Old 07-07-2015, 03:29 PM   #3
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I tow with the Jeep Eco diesel. I tow a 2013 25' International. My cat scale slip says 5500# loaded. The trailer plaque says 7300#. There are Airstreamers that tow 30' without a problem. The temp gauge will red line on a long uphill grade. Mine never overheated. It is a little concerning though. Just let off the throttle a little.
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Yes you can and you do not need a hensley or pp. An Andersen or Blue Ox would work just fine for your combination. I soon as I can swing it I will trading my 2011 JGC Hemi in for a new GC Eco Diesel.
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One doesn't need an Airstream either, so why compromise on a hitch? A PP is the latest design. Dirt cheap for what it does.
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Anyone know if I can tow a International 27 with the Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 Liter Eco Diesel in the mountains out west. Would I need a Hensley or Pro Ride?
Lots of conversations about this car on this forum. The search function isn't perfect, but will give you a decent point to start reading.
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Old 07-07-2015, 05:35 PM   #7
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One doesn't need an Airstream either, so why compromise on a hitch? A PP is the latest design. Dirt cheap for what it does.
"One doesn't need an Airstream". BLASPHEMY!😛
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Towing with Jeep Eco Diesel

Yeah. Especially as I ain't got one . . but wanted the same permanent attributes. Only a tiny handful of choices usually constitute what is best.

Look forward to what others have to say about a diesel Jeep. Pointed it out to my son as he leaves the USMC after ten years to start grad school, but he was turned off by the perception of bad GC reliability. Can't argue with his Toyo 4Runner choice except it's a crap TV according to Thomson.
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Anyone know if I can tow a International 27 with the Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 Liter Eco Diesel in the mountains out west. Would I need a Hensley or Pro Ride?
High end 27' Airstream
Expensive Eco Jeep
Top performing Hensley or ProPride

Don't risk your investment with a marginal hitch.
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The Jeep has good excellent towing and stability qualities but limited by load crying capacity. Travel very lightly in the Jeep and loads well-balanced in the Airstream and you may be quite happy with it.

Rarely will anyone who has used a Hensley or ProPride hitch want to ever tow a midsize to large Airstream without one.
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:51 AM   #11
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I wouldn't do it. but I wouldn't tow an AS with a bicycle but Wally did.

I am just peachey pulling my 30 classic with the GMC 3500 Denali with a Durmax

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I am pulling a 19' Bambi behind a 2015 Ram EcoDiesel getting 17 mpg from Central Texas to Port A and back at highway speeds, and in Texas that is 75 mph. I tried not to get above 70 but the truck would jump up 75 fast. The same trip in my 08 Commander with 4.7l got around 12mpg and would make the trip at 68mph. Loving my EcoDiesel
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Rule of thumb out here in the mountains is take 1k lbs off the max tow capacity of your vehicle to start. You are pushing safety limits with a trailer that big, behind the JGC.
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I am pulling a 19' Bambi behind a 2015 Ram EcoDiesel getting 17 mpg from Central Texas to Port A and back at highway speeds, and in Texas that is 75 mph. I tried not to get above 70 but the truck would jump up 75 fast. The same trip in my 08 Commander with 4.7l got around 12mpg and would make the trip at 68mph. Loving my EcoDiesel

Careful with that speed. Your tires have a max speed rating of 65. Would not want to hear tale of a blow out and hear it blamed on the tires.
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Rule of thumb out here in the mountains is take 1k lbs off the max tow capacity of your vehicle to start. You are pushing safety limits with a trailer that big, behind the JGC.
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Careful with that speed. Your tires have a max speed rating of 65. Would not want to hear tale of a blow out and hear it blamed on the tires.
Where does the 1000 pound rule of thumb come from? Jeep shows the towing capacity of the 2015 Grand Cherokee diesel to be 7,400 pounds without any mention of reducing that for a mountainous area.

Those of us who have changed to Michelin tires are not limited to a 65 mph speed rating. I happen to drive 65 or below because of fuel consumption, not tire speed rating (well, speed limits do come into play!).

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I would hope that at some point in time the "common sense" factor would come into play in regards to speed. Regardless of the "tow rating", "speed rating", and all the other stuff I read here by the "experts".

There is a point where responsible RVer's would realize the limits of their and their equipments abilities.

I'm not going to get into a pissing match and tell you my experience level, but chance are whatever the situation, I've probably seen it, or experienced it.

Usually, too much speed, or too much trailer for too small a tow vehicle, and an improperly adjusted hitch, and a lot of over confidence is what leads to a really bad experience. When all of these things come together, it will happen so fast you probably won't have a fast enough reaction time to prevent the inevitable.

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Where does the 1000 pound rule of thumb come from? Jeep shows the towing capacity of the 2015 Grand Cherokee diesel to be 7,400 pounds without any mention of reducing that for a mountainous area.

Those of us who have changed to Michelin tires are not limited to a 65 mph speed rating. I happen to drive 65 or below because of fuel consumption, not tire speed rating (well, speed limits do come into play!).

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Let's see how it does with the trailer going from Montrose, Colorado up to Uray then up to Silverton and Durango , these are mountain areas.......
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Careful with that speed. Your tires have a max speed rating of 65. Would not want to hear tale of a blow out and hear it blamed on the tires.
I am running a set of Carlise Radial Trail RH Trailer Tire ST225/75r15 that has load rating of E and a speed rating of R. The R rating has a max speed of 106mph.
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Anyone know if I can tow a International 27 with the Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 Liter Eco Diesel in the mountains out west. Would I need a Hensley or Pro Ride?
I tow our FC23FB with a Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 Liter Eco Diesel and Equalizer hitch, and after 44,000 miles I remain very confident and satisfied in it's capabilities and performance. I think that you would exceed the tongue weight capability with the 27, however, and I personally would not make that choice, though others have done so. Those heavy hitches are no silver bullet for overloading.

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I am running a set of Carlise Radial Trail RH Trailer Tire ST225/75r15 that has load rating of E and a speed rating of R. The R rating has a max speed of 106mph.
I'm pretty sure the only R rating on your tires is the designation for Radial. I do note that Amazon lists them as having an "R" speed rating, but they don't specialize in tires. TireRack and DiscountTire both list what I've long understood to be the case with ST tires, "Industry standards dictate tires with the ST designation are speed rated to 65 MPH (104 km/h) under normal inflation and load conditions." (quoted from TireRack.com)

That blurb also states that GY Marathons and Power King Towmax ST tires can be run up to 75 mph with an extra 10 psi of cold inflation pressure, which is surprising to me. I've never seen that claimed for STs before.
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