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02-28-2023, 10:38 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1954 22' Safari
Currently Looking...
Ringmer
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Join Date: Aug 2022
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Towing with a Classic Mustang
Hi
Has anybody towed with a 1966/7 Mustang? Or know what the max allowable weight is please?
Cheers
Niall
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02-28-2023, 11:15 AM
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4 Rivet Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MustangGuy
Hi
Has anybody towed with a 1966/7 Mustang? Or know what the max allowable weight is please?
Cheers
Niall
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Is a brake and suspension upgrade in the works?
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02-28-2023, 11:26 AM
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Rivet Master
North AL
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If it has a class 1 hitch, you're limited to 2,000 lbs. Absent any suspension upgrades, I'm not sure I'd pull that much with 50+ year old leaf springs and unibody construction.
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02-28-2023, 11:55 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MustangGuy
Hi
Has anybody towed with a 1966/7 Mustang? Or know what the max allowable weight is please?
Cheers
Niall
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Just my humble 'opinion'.
It would tow a 22' Airstream back & forth the 'local' vintage car/trailer show.
The AS would be up for camping if it was towed with a more modern TV.
Bob
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We towed the trailer & drove 'Bertha" to the show.
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02-28-2023, 01:28 PM
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Escape Pod II
2022 23' Flying Cloud
2018 22' Sport
Orange
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 779
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"66 Mustang
A '66 I restored for my son. I don't think it would have made a good TV.
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02-28-2023, 01:49 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
Brooks
, Georgia
Join Date: Mar 2009
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I have restored cars and would not consider it with a unibody car. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze in my opinion. Cooling, transmission, rear end and chassis are not up to the challenge and then you need a brake controller and trailer wiring.
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02-28-2023, 02:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 20' Flying Cloud
Kingsport
, Tennessee
Join Date: Aug 2015
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My gut reaction was 'no way'; but then I started trying to work it over in my head...
classy car, classy trailer, trying to have a vintage pairing... I get it, I see where you might be trying to head...
I didn't even think about the unibody aspect of it, but, yes, that'd be a hindrance, even if you did swap rear axle and springs, etc.
I have a buddy who's got a Mustang shop, I can ask him what he thinks... (I know he keeps a pickup for his own camper, that he's not currently towing anything w/ a Mustang; but, if anyone had thought about it and might have a way to successfully do it, it might be him....).
Now, I will admit, to get it to work, it'd have to be an older trailer, back when they were lighter, a wishbone type... and, you might have to gut a lot of the amenities to have it light enough to be able to be towed. A newer modern trailer, they're quite a bit heavier, I'll guarantee a vintage Mustang couldn't do it, not w/o a LOT of modification.
Of course, a Mustang can have enough horsepower. But the problem here is, that rear unibody has an axle hanging under it that's NOT a truck axle, does NOT have a truck suspension, and there's no chassis to support it all. To get this to work, you're going to need to eat up the trunk with adding structure to support a suspension to a different axle. Anything CAN be done, but it's not going to be an easy thing.
Just trying to think of another way to do such, another option might be one of those extra-axle dollies, where you hook the camper to it, it acts like the heavy duty towing axle, and is more lightly hitched to the vehicle. I still don't know if it'd work for a vintage Mustang or not. But, I'll see if he has any ideas....
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02-28-2023, 03:45 PM
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Escape Pod II
2022 23' Flying Cloud
2018 22' Sport
Orange
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 779
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May I suggest a 1954 or '55 Ford Station Wagon to tow your 1954 AS?
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02-28-2023, 04:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 22' Sport
High River
, Alberta
Join Date: Aug 2006
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A Mustang is a Falcon with stylish body work. Falcons were used to tow small travel trailers in the 1960s. It is doable if the trailer size is reasonable and the setup is done right.
But having driven an old Mustang, I’d pass. They’re like many classic cars - better to look at than to drive.
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02-28-2023, 05:11 PM
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Rivets?
1992 29' Excella
2010 22' Interstate
Van By The River
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Hi Niall,
I don't know the specifications for an early model Mustang but I suspect if anyone knows it's Andy Thompson at CanAm RV - I think his forum name is Andrew T. He's made quite a few posts about hitches, weight ratings, etc. Equally important to weight ratings and tongue weight are horsepower, transmission ratio and differential ratio.
On a related note - my wife and I took a test drive with Andy towing a 31 foot Airstream with an early-mid 90's Ford Taurus. The vehicle and trailer handled very well and it surpassed the handling of a truck by leaps and bounds IMO.
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1992 29' Excella Classic / 2010 Interstate
2005 Chevrolet Suburban K2500 8.1L
2018 GMC Sierra K1500 SLT, 6.2L, Max Trailering
Got a cooped-up feeling, gotta get out of town, got those Airstream campin' blues...
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02-28-2023, 05:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 16' International CCD
Vintage Kin Owner
Somewhere
, Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,583
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Just for fun: What is the payload of a 1966/7 Mustang?
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03-03-2023, 08:17 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1954 22' Safari
Currently Looking...
Ringmer
, East Sussex
Join Date: Aug 2022
Posts: 67
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A bit more info. Trailer is 1954, so old style weight. Added cabinetry is all lightweight. Brakes upgraded to U.K. specification. (Electrics are U.K. spec) Mustang is 289 4 pot. New leaf springs.
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03-03-2023, 08:21 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1954 22' Safari
Currently Looking...
Ringmer
, East Sussex
Join Date: Aug 2022
Posts: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler2you
If it has a class 1 hitch, you're limited to 2,000 lbs. Absent any suspension upgrades, I'm not sure I'd pull that much with 50+ year old leaf springs and unibody construction.
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What’s unibody construction please?
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03-03-2023, 08:34 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MustangGuy
What’s unibody construction please?
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03-03-2023, 02:49 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
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As someone that has towed vintage, the answer is "Yes" it can be done, if the vintage tow is setup correctly. I've personally used a 1968 Travelall to pull a 1966 Safari 1,500 miles round trip to Perry, GA in the middle of the summer (95-100 degree heat) to using my 1962 Ford Galaxie pulling my 1956 Safari Front Kitchen to over 250 miles to classic events for weekend camping.
Granted, both of my tow rigs are framed vs. unibody autos. I know that class-3 hitches can be installed on unibody cars, though I personally have never done it, so speak to someone like Andy up in Canada on that subject.
Good luck, can be a much of fun, it's been done before, just need to learn how.
Enjoy,
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03-03-2023, 11:37 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1954 22' Safari
Currently Looking...
Ringmer
, East Sussex
Join Date: Aug 2022
Posts: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LNBright
My gut reaction was 'no way'; but then I started trying to work it over in my head...
classy car, classy trailer, trying to have a vintage pairing... I get it, I see where you might be trying to head...
I didn't even think about the unibody aspect of it, but, yes, that'd be a hindrance, even if you did swap rear axle and springs, etc.
Just trying to think of another way to do such, another option might be one of those extra-axle dollies, where you hook the camper to it, it acts like the heavy duty towing axle, and is more lightly hitched to the vehicle. I still don't know if it'd work for a vintage Mustang or not. But, I'll see if he has any ideas....
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Thanks Leslie. Do you have more info on the dollies pls?
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03-03-2023, 11:42 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1954 22' Safari
Currently Looking...
Ringmer
, East Sussex
Join Date: Aug 2022
Posts: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
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Ah. Possibly what we would call monocoque then.
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03-04-2023, 07:29 AM
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Rivet Master
2023 28' International
Mercer County
, New Jersey
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 728
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MustangGuy
Ah. Possibly what we would call monocoque then.
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Monocoque is different and there are almost no road going monocoque vehicles. In a monocoque vehicle, the skin is integral to the structural integrity of the vehicle. Even a Airstream is a semi-moncoque vehicle because there is the ladder frame under it all.
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...he-difference/
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03-04-2023, 08:34 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 20' Flying Cloud
Kingsport
, Tennessee
Join Date: Aug 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MustangGuy
Thanks Leslie. Do you have more info on the dollies pls?
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It started from an article I saw awhile back about Toyota developing them, but theoretically, could work for anything, if set up for such...
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/tractor...tchless-towing
Those aren't out yet. But then I found there are other things out there already, that you can use to boost your towing capacity, would make it so that your TV doesn't have to have X ability, but that the axle/dolly is what has to have X tongue weight capabilities, and braking, and pulling power...:
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...ck-capability/
I don't think it'd take a Mustang up to F350 abilities, but it might help a vehicle tow more than you'd initially expect it to be capable of handling.
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