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Old 09-23-2007, 05:24 PM   #1
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Towing: Tundra vs Sequoia vs Land Cruiser


I’ve read you guys love your Tundras. I have need for an enclosed midsized 4x4 SUV for double duty with “other interests”.

Has anyone towed with a 2000+ Toyota Sequoia or Land Cruiser? Towing #3500-#4500 1960’s 22’ Safari.

Are Sequoia and/or Land Cruiser built on same chassis/power train as Tundras?
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Old 09-23-2007, 05:47 PM   #2
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I have towed with my 97 Staight six 4.5 Land Cruiser. My 22 foot Flying Could pulls with no problem, We also pulled the Tradewind, although a heavier pull still worked, but I would not push that a lot because its much heavier. I think any of the Toyotas you mentioned will do fine for your needs. My Land Cruiser is the best auto I have ever owned. Its a solid product, and very comfortable.
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:07 PM   #3
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Hi Walter1 -- Hey, it's me again!

The Sequoia is built on the same chassis as a Tundra. I can't say what has happened to Sequoias with the larger size Tundras coming out of the San Antonio plant. A general rule of thumb is that an SUV version of a pickup will have more body weight than a basic pickup box. Payload (aka load capacity) are correspondingly reduced. You shouldn't have any problem with a vintage 22-footer with either the Sequoia or Tundra -- either the new or old versions.

I don't have time to look at Land Cruiser specs right now. Maybe others will speak up.
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:19 PM   #4
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Qualifying statement -- I'm not talking about any 6-cylinder engines when I give the blanket statement above.

The 1st generation Tundra platform may run into limits faster than other 1/2-ton trucks -- a cautionary note for those contemplating larger or newer (heavier) Airstreams. Each case should be discussed separately.
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:40 PM   #5
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pull with a tacoma

I pull a 2006 25' safari with a a '05 tacoma. We have gone over many big mountains and a lot of distance. Never any problem with power. you could also consider a fj cruiser or a 4runner to to what you have. My Dad had a '98 suburban for his 25 foot caravaneer and tried my Tacoma and traded. It had more power! Check it out!!!
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:33 AM   #6
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I pull a 2006 25' safari with a a '05 tacoma. We have gone over many big mountains and a lot of distance. Never any problem with power.
Pulls like it's not even back there? Your drivetrain might be pulling the load. A widebody 25' Safari is a heavy beast (>5000# empty weight). The Tacoma specs say the max GCWR is 7500# for a 2WD and 8000# for a 4WD without the tow package. Does your manual say anything better for GCWR the way you are equipped?

Usual recommendations are that a trailer and its tongue weight should not exceed 80-85% of any of the following: tow vehicle payload, tow capacity or GCWR.
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you could also consider a fj cruiser or a 4runner to to what you have.
The FJ Cruiser has a very short wheelbase -- not a great tow vehicle!
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:13 PM   #7
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We're looking into getting a Toyota Four Runner to go with an '07 19' Bambi. The V-6 has less towing capacity than the V-8 but the around-town gas mileage wouldn't be good with the V-8. Any suggestions, oh wise ones? :=D
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:20 PM   #8
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I tow a 73 25' with a 2000 Tacoma, manual transmission. It does a great job, also use the Reese Dual CAm...get lots of comments that it is too much trailer for the truck, but that is a personal issue....
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Sequoias up to 2007 are on the original Tundra chassis. I think the 2008 will be on the new Tundra (2007 and onward) chassis. The Sequoia is plush and way overpriced. The Tundra Limited is also plush, the Crew Cab is big, the Double Cab almost as big, and with a hard tonneau has probably the cubic feet of cargo space as the Sequoia for a lot less money. The Sequoias are at lot heavier than the Tundras were—1,500 lbs or so I think, so subtract that from towing ability. LandCruisers look like stretched 4Runner for 50% or more money, but they may be lighter than the Sequoia and have the same engine.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:59 PM   #10
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Thanks for the help.

Are Sequoias pretty much the same body 2000-2007?
Some look "fatter" on the road...could be optical illusion.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:36 AM   #11
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I tow a 73 25' with a 2000 Tacoma, manual transmission. It does a great job, also use the Reese Dual CAm...get lots of comments that it is too much trailer for the truck, but that is a personal issue....
it's not a personal issue, it's a fact. that is way too much trailer for the truck and that tow combination is downright dangerous not just for you, but the people around you when traveling on the road .
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:13 AM   #12
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Tundra, Sequoia, Land Rover...

The first question I ask myself is how did I end up with three petrol burners, when I try to keep my house oil usage low...... folks with airstreams have a hard time claiming green Either way, I have all three set-up for towing our 65' globetrotter and 56' caravanner. The Tundra has been the workhorse and I've been happy towing with it, but we recently added the sequoia and it tows so much nicer than the Tundra. Between model years, Toyota did some incremental improvements on the suspension and engine. Both tow very well, but I personally like the SUV for camping versus the truck. More room for kid, dog, and other items.

The rover has been fun to tow with but the shorter wheel base and full time four wheel drive make the ride less comfortable and eats more gas. The truck is made for rough use and we regularly see them towing horse trailers and boats, so the capacity is there for small to medium sized rigs. I would not tow a 25' trailer with it. I've heard tail waging the dog used, which I would suspect could happen with the rover and longer trailer combo.

The older land cruisers did not share the same platform as the Tundra and Sequoia, but I recall reading that the new ones do. The overall length, width, and height of the older models seem to be inline with the Land Rover, maybe a bit bigger but not much. The engine in the rover is bigger than all of them, but the full time four wheel drive takes to much power way.

My opinion is skip the Land Cruiser. The older ones are not appropriate for trailering over the long haul. The 2000-2006 model Tundra and Sequia are good, but again not for bigger than 25' foot trailers, unless you are going for a new version with the 5.7L engine.

Personally, I am waiting for Toyota to come out with a diesel and then I'll flip my Tundra over for a new one.

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Old 11-02-2007, 11:48 AM   #13
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Land Cruiser

I tow a 1989 25' Excella with a 1998 Land Cruiser. The Land Cruiser is not built on a Tundra platform, it has its own platform shared with the Lexus LS470 and is still built in Japan. It is built primarily for "off road" but also is quiet and smooth.

My opinion is that it isn't an ideal tow vechicle because of the short wheelbase and the limited gross weight/tow weight capabilities. It does however pull very well. The engine only displaces 4.7 liters but has relatively high torque, is very smooth at higher RPMs and has 4.33 rear end gearing. The towing disadvantage of the short wheelbase turns into an advantage when manuervering in close quarters. Also, nothing breaks. The only "repair" I have made in 120,000 miles is a broken key fob.
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We had a long discussion on TV's capacities.

Try running some numbers... It sobered me right up.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...tml#post456088

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check out toyota.com they have a Diesel Tundra dually coming out!
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the new land cruiser has the same 5.7L V8 that the new Tundra has. But if i remember correctly without a trailer on the back it only gets like 12 mpg. I may be mistaken, but isn't the LC full time AWD? that sucks the gas.

my tundra isn't bad on gas, 16mpg (quite a bit of city driving). of course keep in mind with the 5.7L V8 and the tow package they put a 4.30 rear end in it.
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You have to admit- this would look great towing an Airstream. (It's the original Porsche - in aluminum)
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:18 PM   #18
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I’ve read you guys love your Tundras. I have need for an enclosed midsized 4x4 SUV for double duty with “other interests”.

Has anyone towed with a 2000+ Toyota Sequoia or Land Cruiser? Towing #3500-#4500 1960’s 22’ Safari.

Are Sequoia and/or Land Cruiser built on same chassis/power train as Tundras?
Go to RV Towing Tips - How long?

It porvides good info regards to the relationship of tow vehicle wheel base to trailer length.

I use a 2007 Tundra 5.7L Crew Max to tow a 28 ft. 2008 International,.
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Here's my two cents. I have a 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 2WD. I have pulled a 31' "white box" trailer a few thousand miles. It has a dealer installed Reese hitch rated at 6,500 lbs. I'm not sure exactly the total weight I was towing. I guess around 6,000. It towed pretty well. It didn't have any problems going up steep hills on I-10. When it was flat it would easily tow 65 mph. This was without any load equalizing hitch and no sway control. I only use Michelin tires as I've found all others to be disappointing. The quality of tires on your tow vehicle can affect your towing comfort. As far as MPG goes, make sure you have a credit card with a large limit, because you can expect 7-8 MPG at 65 MPH. Towing an Airstream should be a little better. The bottom line is the Sequoia can tow a 6,500 pound load just fine and dandy.
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I used to own a 2003 Toyota Landcruiser that I used to tow my 22' International (5600 gvwr). The Landcruiser did fine in the Sierras and on long trips. The LC had a 4.7 liter in it which was smooth but not close to the power of the newer Tundras or LandCruisers. Towing was comfortable and there was a lot of peace of mind on trips and side excursions away from the trailer and the truck was simply bullet proof. I had it to 120k miles or so and nothing ever broke or went wrong. By far the best car I've ever owned. I plan on getting a used one of the newer LandCruiser in the next year or so. They are alot of fun to take off roading when camping in the mountains and desert.
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