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Old 08-21-2020, 07:14 AM   #41
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Two questions: What's your payload capacity, and are you really within it?

If the answer to both is yes, you're good. That towing capacity number is a marketing number at best - payload is by far a more important number. Happy towing!
That is exactly why I went from an F150 to an F250 for my 2017 27' AS. Loaded up I was about 200 lbs over the limit. That was with the two of us (and our 6 lb dog) and we were four months from going on a two week trip that would add our two grandkids; another 150 lbs of kid plus some more cargo. I did not want to have any instabilities with them on board!
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Old 08-21-2020, 11:32 AM   #42
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Here's the output of the calculator for my specific vehicle. As discussed on this board, my truck appears to be more than capable of towing the 23FB, I just need to be careful with cargo.
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Old 08-21-2020, 03:38 PM   #43
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Here's the output of the calculator for my specific vehicle. As discussed on this board, my truck appears to be more than capable of towing the 23FB, I just need to be careful with cargo.
You will be fine. Best of luck and have fun camping! We've had our AS for three years and just love it.
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Old 08-21-2020, 10:47 PM   #44
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Thanks. We finalized our deal today. The Globetrotter 23FB was sold before we could react, but we secured a deal on a 2020 International Serenity 23FB. We’ll pick it up in a couple of weeks and head out for our first trip. Can’t wait!
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Old 08-22-2020, 07:05 AM   #45
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Thanks. We finalized our deal today. The Globetrotter 23FB was sold before we could react, but we secured a deal on a 2020 International Serenity 23FB. Weíll pick it up in a couple of weeks and head out for our first trip. Canít wait!
Happy Camping! Congratulations!
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Old 08-22-2020, 07:06 PM   #46
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Thanks. We’re really excited about it. When we leave the Airstream dealer In Chicago, we are taking a 10 day trip through the Dakotas, Wyoming, and Colorado. We’re in the planning phase now!
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Old 08-23-2020, 10:36 AM   #47
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Stop overthinking it. Youíre going to be fine with no matter what your tow. I have towed over 30,000 miles in the last three years with first, a Ford F150 platinum with 3.5 L eco-boost, and now, more recently, a Silverado with a 6.2 L V8. In the mountains just use premium. I use a pro pride hitch and usually cruise at 75+ miles per hour in the west. I have a 25 FB airstream which has one of the highest Tom Waits of all of the trailers. Again, just buy whatever you want and donít worry about it. Youíre five points 3 L V8 will be just fine
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Old 08-23-2020, 10:45 AM   #48
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We have towed a 25í FCFB with a Tundra 125,000 miles in Alaska, Canada, all mountain ranges, and in varied conditions. I also use it as a daily personal driver. It has been 100% successful. The 4x4, in my opinion and experience, offers a better power/grip in odd conditions such as mud, sand, or loose gravel...and when power is need at low speed such as at a difficult site. The 1/2 ton is much more user friendly as a ďcarĒ when detached.
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Old 08-23-2020, 10:54 AM   #49
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I had exactly the same concern with truck choice as you a few years ago. I approached my GMC service advisor, who I've known for years. His simple advice: Trailers 28' or less can be done with a properly equipped 1/2 ton (like yours). If you go longer, 3/4 ton!!!! The more I thought about it, I decided to trade the GMC with the 5.3 for one with the 6.2. LOVE that engine. I chose it because it had the most torque of the gas engines. We pull a 27" international, and we've conquered the Rockies.
So, if you're staying with the 25 or less, you'll be fine.
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Old 08-23-2020, 12:26 PM   #50
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We have a 25' Excella and tow with a F150 a 3.5 ecoboost. It pulls great and gets pretty good mpg. We have the extended range 36 gallon tank which is a real plus. The only time I miss a diesel is on long down hills where the engine brake was a big help.
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Old 08-23-2020, 12:26 PM   #51
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As a North Dakotan, Iíve pulled our 1971 31ft sovereign out to Oregon via Yellowstone and Glacier, up/down Lolo Pass with my 2005 f250 crew cab diesel, which Iím retiring and selling.

As stated, the TV has to be stored or driven, and 95% of the time it wasnít hauling anything, so driving a diesel every day and fitting it in parking lots isnít really that much fun.

The truck was great for everything, ever even cared that the AS was back there, minor de-fueling while going up some long/hot inclines (Lolo)

It never got ďgreat gas mileageĒ 15mpg on the flat land, 11.4mpg on the 4400 mile 15 day trip out to Oregon and back.

So this year when I decided to retire it, we bought a 2020 Silverado 1500 TrailBoss.

Weíve only been on 1 trip so far down to Red Lodge MT, and it did very well, 1600 miles 10.6mpg.

The only real change I noticed between the f-250 and the 1500 was side wind. The f-250 weighs more than the 1500 and the f-250 has a longer wheelbase, both of which gave the f-250 a slight advantage.

I have never owned or used a weight distribution or sway hitch, maybe some day Iíll get the opportunity.

Iím sure your combo will be great together.
And most of the cool stuff in north or South Dakota is on the west side...
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Old 08-23-2020, 12:28 PM   #52
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On tow Vec.

This should bring a smile!

We pull a 1978 (restored by Nomod in Ny state) 28 foot AS with two different vehicle's, a (restored) 1972 Cadillac Couple Deville that's been in our family since new, or a 2008 Tundra both rigs pull our trailer just fine. We do have better visibility with the Tundra .
The Caddy also pulled a 1973 28ft AS that my nephew is now undertaking a redo of, this one had a org propane generator built in on road side wictch came in handy in the back hills of Wyo, or outer banks of NC.

Ride safe all

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Old 08-23-2020, 01:38 PM   #53
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We tow our 2017 23FB with a 2007 Nissan Titan the towing numbers are about the same, I have a good WD hitch and the truck handles it very well.
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Old 08-23-2020, 01:42 PM   #54
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We have a 2019 23 ft International Signature. We tow with a 2019 F150/5.0 V8. We have been across the Rockies and the Smokies - no problems at all (of course with a Blue Ox WD hitch). You should be fine.
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Old 08-23-2020, 02:23 PM   #55
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I also purchased a Blue Ox Sway Pro weight distribution hitch. I'm looking forward to the experience!
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:15 PM   #56
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This should bring a smile!

We pull a 1978 (restored by Nomod in Ny state) 28 foot AS with two different vehicle's, a (restored) 1972 Cadillac Couple Deville that's been in our family since new.
This got a smile from me. My parents bought a 68 Overlander and used their 65 Sedan DeVille for a tow vehicle. Some years ago I was wondering about that and compared it with my then 03 Suburban. The Caddy was wider and nearly five inches longer. The engine was much bigger with massive torque. Yes, back then sedans were used as tow vehicles, but they were far different from today.
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:21 PM   #57
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Hi all. I have a similar question. Considering 25 GT and pulling with 2018 Suburban. Anyone with experience pulling a 25 with a late model suburban?
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:32 PM   #58
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If you stay with your plan of a 23' trailer, as far as trailers go, the consensus of a huge number of posts tracks identically with the math and physics which indicates if a truck is your choice, the 1500's are the way to go. The combination will be plenty stable and enough additional axle load capacity to carry quite a bit of gear and will generally be more comfortable and handle better than a larger truck. Larger trucks will be more stable, but they will be harsh and handling will be stiff and less refined.

A 4X4 is not your best choice for towing (less stable, poorer handling, poorer cornering) but the trade-off may be worth it to you.

Another choice for a 23' and under is a high performing SUV. They will have fair to decent stability, excellent handling and cornering so they will feel comfortable and sure. They will greatly benefit from some sway and stability support but they will tow well.

If you go up to 25' and larger, the SUV's begin to have difficulty with stability, but they continue to feel great. The smaller trucks don't compete as well with the 3/4 tons in this range. For a 25 it's a tossup. For 27 and higher the 3/4's and 1 tons do better in all categories than the 1/2 tons, but the performance SUVs continue to feel handle and corner better, though again they have stability issues that as the trailer get larger, get more serious.
We have a 25í safari and both a F150 and a 2017 Expedition. Live in Utah so our backyard is always mountain passes and high altitudes. RF 150 is the better tow vehicle by far even though the horsepower and torque ratings are almost identical between the two vehicles. Based on what you have described you will be fine in my opinion with your current set up. I hate the expedition for towing this trailer it is asking way too much of that TwinTurbo V6 regardless of what some idiot Ford engineer says. I would never consider towing a larger trailer with an SUV And I have experience with both vehicles. Good luck itís an awesome way to spend some time!
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:47 PM   #59
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You can tow as big a trailer as Airstream makes with that truck. No issue whatever providing you have a decent and properly adjusted hitch.
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Old 08-23-2020, 04:17 PM   #60
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I foresee several issues for this vehicle towing the larger 30' plus Airstreams that are not resolvable with a properly adjusted hitch. Can and should are not synonyms....
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