Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-23-2023, 12:42 PM   #1
Rivet Master
 
Ray Eklund's Avatar
 
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Oregon Buttes , Wyoming
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,911
Tow Vehicle Mating Airstream Season

Read the Last Paragraph FIRST... then make a decision to keep reading.

We could have spent our lives, living out of a Toyota Land Cruiser and tent camping. The great 'could go anywhere' getting IN and also getting OUT of any camp site combination.

Airstream Travel Trailers also come in different sizes. If you have not already discovered.

Your first Airstream can quickly become too small, as is the next, etc... Maybe get the largest FIRST, which should have been the original plan. Then decide to downsize, as you learn hauling too much of unnecessary junk, that has been removed by now and now have... too much space. Also can tow with a lighter, more manageable tow vehicle.

The 'resale' of your too large Airstream to an undersized Airstream owner... may be the ‘Gold at the End of the Rainbow’ you have heard about. Get what you should have purchased the first time... but now tested, unblemished shorter model. The down grade/ up grade opportunity for two interested parties, may recover most of your original... and their previous investment.

I became old at 56 and finally decided: “Why show off to the youngsters under 50, that we could go anywhere in a 4x4 and a Tent”? Three Blue Heelers also, easily fit, into any empty space. Tow Vehicle or Tent.

We went from a 23 foot to a 25 foot to a 27/28 foot Airstream... Bigger was Better. Trailer AND Tow Vehicle. Most do not understand if you tow a larger travel trailer, you should also consider a larger, yet modest, Tow Vehicle. A point often ignored.

Then added an Oliver Elite II which is almost as heavy as a 27FBQ Airsteam, maybe 800 pounds. Also 7 feet less interior space in the Oliver but ahhhhhfully nice for our camping.

If you are a Big Spender for anything larger than a 25 foot Airstream or some slapped together some other brand... you will need a BIGGER, better Tow Vehicle. So what if you also need the vehicle to drive to work. In the Rocky Mountains... you need a 4x4, often, to GET to Work and Home anyways.

Cannot afford a 'good' Tow Vehicle, but can afford a new or late model 30 foot Airstream? Hmm... Be happy you are not a Pilot of a small aircraft. If you are a pilot of a small aircraft with a limited budget, do not ask me to go for a short flight. I have seen those photographs in Cheyenne, Wyoming, when light aircraft crashes are investigated.

Seeing someone's head sticking through the plastic windshield of a light aircraft does get your attention.

A Toyota Tundra will pull about anything with the 5.7L 4x4 double cab. As you get a heavier trailer, things begin to change. Like pulling away from a Stop Sign, to stopping for a Red Light or braking down one of Colorado’s finest Passes can be an eye opener.

Wagons in the Mid 19th Century also had options. Horse or Oxen. More pulling and more to pull... add more livestock. Those who cut corners, but added a pump organ and lots of heavy ceramic plates and pottery into the wagon... may have tossed most into the Desert before arriving near or at California.

I began towing with a 2006 Toyota 4x4 4.7L engine a 23 foot Safari. I 'evolved' and bought the second year of the larger Tundra 5.7L 4x4. And later used it to tow a 25 foot International. Border line for tongue weight, but towed as fast as I needed to go.

Getting the last of the previous years’ model Ford’s F350 4x4 Diesel, attached to a 27FBQ was an excellent match. The other pickups on the lot were left overs for the prevous year were F250 gas 4x4’s, white and for construction customers...

IF you live in the Flat Lands of the central plains of the USA... do whatever you find comfortable. You should have read this first. Anyone knows an Ending of a Trailer and Tow Vehicle Monograph will always has a ‘twist in logic’. This was the caveat.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN1071.jpg
Views:	30
Size:	400.0 KB
ID:	439734   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN4618.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	396.6 KB
ID:	439735  

Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN0502.jpg
Views:	24
Size:	447.1 KB
ID:	439736   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN0369.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	398.1 KB
ID:	439738  

__________________
Human Bean
Ray Eklund is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2024, 01:07 PM   #2
4 Rivet Member
 
2021 30RB Classic
Currently Looking...
Sproat Lake , British Columbia
Join Date: Apr 2023
Posts: 382
We did about 6K kms of one finger driving with this hopped-up RAM1500 diesel mated to a 6800lb 27FBT.

But ..at this Sunoutdoors resort, we were in a tiny minority. So many huge class A's and 5th wheels. And we chatted with a couple that had a 30 RBT Classic, sat in the sofa area and omg it was nice. That little extra floor space is sweet. Question is can I tow it?

The answer is yes I think so:

Spec__27FBT__30RBT

TW..... 850....800* (with Li batteries)
TT ......6800...8000
GCVW..12800 14000

Horsepower calculations required to lift the TT up a 6% grade at 60 mph on I5 :

HP = aero + tire RR+ 6% grade
27FBT = 70hp+20hp+122hp= 210 hp
30RBT = 70hp+30hp+134hp = 234 hp

So that's the thing with AS's. The frontal area (aero) is the same. The tire rr is slightly higher due to weight but the 30RBT has nicer rubber so may offset that. The extra 1200lbs comes into play climbing. By reducing climb speed by 5 mph the HP required is about the same.


Im putting out around 260 hp so should be OK.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_4376.jpg
Views:	22
Size:	284.3 KB
ID:	440166  
FMSports is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tow vehicle weight to tow 19' Airstream pennylynne 2005 and newer - Bambi all models 18 02-20-2017 11:18 PM
Hazzard of Polishing during Mating Season Bubba L Exterior Restoration Forum 13 03-13-2016 12:00 PM
Tow Vehicle/STOW Vehicle for Full-Timers Foiled Again Full-Timing 13 06-28-2014 12:55 PM
Mating a 2008 22' Safari to a 2006 Touareg C1arkB Tow Vehicles 1 11-29-2011 08:33 AM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.