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05-22-2008, 09:51 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1986 29' Sovereign
Spruce Grove
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Used to use a Chev G2500 till I figured out what a serious POS Chev builds.
Now I have a wonderful Cummins powered 4x4 it is a real treat to go up mountain passes in overdrive. Still got to shift down on the down hill to get some engine braking. The Cummins burns less fuel towing the AS than the Chev used running unloaded. I think 4x4 is a disadvantage for towing, the C of G is to high so the Chev setup felt more stable in the twisty sections.
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05-22-2008, 09:56 PM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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I'm wanting to pull a 25' with a 2004 Dodge Grand Caravan V6, using an equalizing hitch. Just the two of us.
Am I crazy?
ps: don't worry, at this point we have no near-term plans to visit the Grand Tetons.
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05-23-2008, 06:03 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aage
I'm wanting to pull a 25' with a 2004 Dodge Grand Caravan V6, using an equalizing hitch. Just the two of us.
Am I crazy?
ps: don't worry, at this point we have no near-term plans to visit the Grand Tetons.
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Don't know if you are crazy, but I wouldn't do it. I'm sure the van would pull it down a level road at some moderate speed, but I don't think it would be safe, and I know I wouldn't be satisfied with it.
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05-23-2008, 06:49 AM
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4 Rivet Member
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holland
, Michigan
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
Don't know if you are crazy, but I wouldn't do it. I'm sure the van would pull it down a level road at some moderate speed, but I don't think it would be safe, and I know I wouldn't be satisfied with it.
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I can not tell you how many times I have seen a Canadian plate, mini van, and a big trailer. You guys can make a great whiskey and turn so -so vehicles into 3/4 ton trucks. I am impressed indeed.
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05-23-2008, 07:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Classic
N/A
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,809
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aage
I'm wanting to pull a 25' with a 2004 Dodge Grand Caravan V6, using an equalizing hitch. Just the two of us.
Am I crazy?
ps: don't worry, at this point we have no near-term plans to visit the Grand Tetons.
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I think they are only rated to tow 1000#'s. They don't even have a frame to bolt a reciever onto. I think you are asking for trouble.
Ya, you'll hear stories about someone towing a 34ft. tri axle with a Volkswagon bug but it's not safe no matter what they tell you. Your 25ft. is too heavy for the Caravan. Please don't do it.
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05-23-2008, 08:27 AM
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St. Catharines
, South Western Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dooley
I think they are only rated to tow 1000#'s. They don't even have a frame to bolt a reciever onto.
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I have never heard of any Mini Van built in the last 25 years that was rated that low. Where did you get the 1,000lb number from???
This is the very heavy duty, flex free receiver that was used on our Mini Van. It uses 6 bolts as well as mig welded contact points.
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05-23-2008, 08:32 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 Argosy 24
Tempe
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 326
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Amen...
i sized my tv based upon worst case senarios... Donna has learned to accept that i have backup plans for my backup plans. having a TV that can safely & reliably get you to the bottom of a two mile 6% grade without operational trailer brakes is my minimum standard. hence a 3/4 ton.
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05-23-2008, 08:42 AM
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San Antonio
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The Trailer Life RV magazine annual towing guide says right up front that the best tow vehicle for a travel trailer is a pickup truck. That said, being reasonable, and running the numbers for weights & llengths, can lead you to a solid towing solution using something other than a pickup. The wisdom of this group will always offer a range of viewpoints whenever you get into a "questionable" combination.
And a truck-based medium-sized SUV can do a fine job with the right-sized trailer and a good anti-sway setup
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05-23-2008, 11:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Ruler
I have never heard of any Mini Van built in the last 25 years that was rated that low. Where did you get the 1,000lb number from???
This is the very heavy duty, flex free receiver that was used on our Mini Van. It uses 6 bolts as well as mig welded contact points.
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Road Ruler,
I don't think folks here are questioning the integrity of the hitch, it's what the hitch is bolted too.....
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05-23-2008, 12:18 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines
, South Western Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
Road Ruler,
I don't think folks here are questioning the integrity of the hitch, it's what the hitch is bolted too.....
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Having questions is a good thing.
When done right there is no issue with working with uni-bodied vehicles with respect with hitch design and installation.
On the other hand there is evidence of improper applications not working well. Have you ever reserched how many weak GM factory receivers have cracked, broken, or fallen off GM full framed vehicles?
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05-23-2008, 02:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Classic
N/A
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,809
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Road Ruler
I have never heard of any Mini Van built in the last 25 years that was rated that low. Where did you get the 1,000lb number from???
This is the very heavy duty, flex free receiver that was used on our Mini Van. It uses 6 bolts as well as mig welded contact points.
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Just for sake of agrument, lets say 2000# or 3000# tow limit. The guy with the 25 footer weighs in over that empty without passengers or gear or anything else. The front wheel drive mini van would not be a safe vehicle period, towing a 25 footer. Ask Dodge about it if you still feel this way and let us know what they say.
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05-23-2008, 02:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Back to original thread
I traded a Suburban gasser for my 2500 Chevy P/U. Both were nice tow vehicles.
However, Murphy's Law has me firmly in it's grasp whenever it's time for me to move the trailer. 9 times out of 10 when I switch campgrounds or go out on an adventure - it starts pouring as I back the truck up to the Airstream.
Yep, it SURE DOES make more sense to throw muddy chairs, chock blocks, etc. into the bed of the truck.
Paula
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05-24-2008, 09:24 PM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsena-j
We do not have a lot of experience wit the AS. Only had it for one year. We tow with a Jeep Cherokee 3.0diesel plenty of pull and good millage performance. It tows very well. When we bought the AS the dealer had great video and also had real demo with various vehicules for the AS. It is clear that one thing that made a big diference on the road was the Hensley hitch. Somewhat expensive but worth the money.
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Was that Can-Am? They seem like a great group, only wish they were a bit closer...
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