Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-06-2021, 01:52 PM   #1
1 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Seattle , Washington
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5
Tesla Cybertruck will tow 14,000 lbs -- did you order one yet?

Was reading on Tesla website about their proposed 2022 tri-motor EV truck which with the tri-motor AWD model you might tow up to 14,000 lbs and travel over 500 miles per charge.

Nothing else on the market claims to provide that kind of performance.

Ambitious? Of course, but everyday there are new developments.

Would the proposed 2022+ Tesla Cybertruck be the ideal tow vehicle for the largest Airstream 30+ footer model?

https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/design#battery
TravelerJoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 02:41 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
2019 25' International
Providence , Senior Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 876
The million dollar question is......how do you charge the tesla with a silver barnacle attached?

Most charge stations are set up for a single vehicle that is "parked"......I don't see this as a logistical win for the tesla/trailer setup the way our interstates are setup....today.

Then having to "wait around" while the thing recharges?

Pass.....
kittmaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 02:44 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville , Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,240
Blog Entries: 1
"Would the proposed 2022+ Tesla Cybertruck be the ideal tow vehicle for the largest Airstream 30+ footer model?"

In my opinion, no.
Bill M. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 03:01 PM   #4
4 Rivet Member
 
Durango , Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 426
That 500 miles on a charge is not while towing. You can expect 1/3 of that mileage towing a trailer. So maybe 150 - 175 miles on a good day. Then you run into the problem of charging that massive battery.

One other note, the Tesla Cyber truck is massive. Much too big to fit in a standard garage. People that have seen it in person say that you will have to build a custom sized garage much wider and taller than standard 2 car garages.
RVDreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 03:09 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
kscherzi's Avatar
 
2013 27' FB International
El Dorado Hills , California
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,678
Images: 24
Is Tesla claiming the truck is capable of towing a 14,000 lb trailer for 500 miles on a single charge?
kscherzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 03:39 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
mikeinca's Avatar

 
2020 25' Globetrotter
Santa Rosa , California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,050
Quote:
Originally Posted by kscherzi View Post
Is Tesla claiming the truck is capable of towing a 14,000 lb trailer for 500 miles on a single charge?
Like most things Elon Musk/Tesla, there is no doubt a certain amount of hyperbole involved. As has been mentioned, the truck might be capable of 500 miles on a single charge (although Tesla routinely overpromises and underdelivers on mileage claims) but I'm betting there is NO WAY it will do 500 miles with a trailer in tow.

I'm an EV fan, but aside from a few specialized situations for a few people, and for a number of reasons, they are not yet ready to be a tow vehicle for most of us.
__________________
Mike

2020 25' Globetrotter Twin | 2017 F250 4x4 6.7 max tow Platinum
400Ah Battle Born lithium battery string | 580W solar (400W roof 180W portable)
mikeinca is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 04:58 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
Mollysdad's Avatar

 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa , Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 6,133
Blog Entries: 1
My inventor/scientist friend has been screaming for Thorium reactors for years.
The byproducts are not as radioactive as Uranium reactors, and the material uses molten salt instead of water. The byproducts can't be weaponized.
(Don't ask me to explain)
He thinks California needs to realize that switching everyone to electric vehicles while not building new power plants and counting on wind and solar is a fool's errand.
I saw where one of California's hydro plants was off line because of low water in the reservoir.
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/l...7-09572445aa85

But a few years ago, Lake Oroville was intentionally lowered due to heavy snowfall and rain, fearing dam failure.

California needs to look at the big picture.
Mollysdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 05:16 PM   #8
Rivet Master
 
rowiebowie's Avatar
 
2012 Avenue Coach
Corpus Christi , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,710
Quote:
Originally Posted by RVDreamer View Post
That 500 miles on a charge is not while towing. You can expect 1/3 of that mileage towing a trailer. So maybe 150 - 175 miles on a good day. Then you run into the problem of charging that massive battery.

One other note, the Tesla Cyber truck is massive. Much too big to fit in a standard garage. People that have seen it in person say that you will have to build a custom sized garage much wider and taller than standard 2 car garages.

The Cybertruck will be an awesome adventure vehicle with the absolute longest range of any ev to date. But not the best tow vehicle unless on short trips as cited above. But charging should be pretty fast as it will have the new faster charging 4680 batteries and it's large battery bank will keep charging in the 20%-80% sweet spot longer.

In regards to being too massive, it will be the size of a quad-cab F-150 in length and width but several inches shorter. Hard to fit in a standard garage, but no harder that current full-sized ICE pickups.


I have one on order so I've reviewed the specs. I don't plan on towing, but I may consider this option as a replacement to my current class b. Tucks completely into the covered bed so no added wind resistance and only around a 5% range reduction due to the added weight of 1300-1400 lbs.
rowiebowie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 06:42 PM   #9
4 Rivet Member
 
Durango , Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 426
Quote:
Originally Posted by rowiebowie View Post
The Cybertruck will be an awesome adventure vehicle with the absolute longest range of any ev to date. But not the best tow vehicle unless on short trips as cited above. But charging should be pretty fast as it will have the new faster charging 4680 batteries and it's large battery bank will keep charging in the 20%-80% sweet spot longer.

In regards to being too massive, it will be the size of a quad-cab F-150 in length and width but several inches shorter. Hard to fit in a standard garage, but no harder that current full-sized ICE pickups.

Sorry, I got it confused with the Rivian. It's the Rivian that is massive and too tall for a normal garage.

As far as charge time. Good luck trying to find a delivery station that will rapid charge every 150 miles or so. You'll be using standard current and slow chargers most of the time until the infrastructure can support towing with an EV. In addition, you will need to charge all the way to 100% when towing, which takes a lot longer than 80%.

I think EV trucks are going to be wonderful eventually. I really like the idea of all that low end torque and the quiet powerful ride. But the technology isn't yet there for towing with an EV. Give it another 5 -10 years for battery tech to take a quantum jump.
RVDreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 07:47 PM   #10
Rivet Master
 
2021 25' Globetrotter
Oviedo , Florida
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 602
My buddy at work is as much of a Tesla fanboy as you can imagine. I almost bought a Model 3 when they came out and he asked me to use him as a referral because he’d get supercharger credits or something like that. I gave the salesman his OD number and he was impressed as he must have been in the first few thousand owners or some such nonsense.

Fast forward to two weeks ago and I asked him when he thought his cybertrucks would be coming in (he ordered 2. One for himself and one as an investment) . He did not exp,sin in detail, but said he was probably going to cancel the order. Definitely got the impression that Elon had tripped his BS detector.
jondrew55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 07:55 PM   #11
4 Rivet Member
 
Durango , Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 426
Quote:
Originally Posted by jondrew55 View Post
Fast forward to two weeks ago and I asked him when he thought his cybertrucks would be coming in (he ordered 2. One for himself and one as an investment) . He did not exp,sin in detail, but said he was probably going to cancel the order. Definitely got the impression that Elon had tripped his BS detector.
I think that a lot of people think the CyberTruck is going to end up being vaporware. You never know with Elon. That's why when this thread was started talking about a new electric truck, I was thinking Rivian. It is going to be the first to market along with Ford Lightning. The CyberTruck hasn't advanced past the prototype stage from what I can tell.
RVDreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2021, 05:28 AM   #12
Liquid Cooled
 
RedSHED's Avatar
 
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
near Indy , Indiana
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 591
Images: 2
Daimler's taking a hard look at hydrogen.
https://www.daimler.com/innovation/c...omobility.html
RedSHED is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2021, 07:41 AM   #13
Rivet Master
 
s1000pre's Avatar
 
2021 30' Flying Cloud
2020 25' International
minneapolis , Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 810
Images: 1
I really like the idea and have followed Tesla since introduction of the first roadster. The reality is a 150ish mile range pulling an Airstream. Unless they can figure that out, it Just isn’t going to work. If they can get to the 250 mark that would be doable.
__________________
- Stewart
s1000pre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2021, 09:33 AM   #14
4 Rivet Member
 
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Brookhaven , Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 297
Blog Entries: 1
In Brookhaven, GA, Range Rovers have been replaced by Porches. As everyone knows, Range Rovers are "So Pre-Pandemic." Tesla Trucks are sure to be the next fad. If you live in Atlanta and pull your Airstream with a Tesla Truck, you can go to Yonah Mountain Vineyard in Cleveland, GA where they have Tesla Chargers and a great wine tasting room.
__________________
Instagram @coasttocoastphotoatl
coasttocoast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2021, 10:04 AM   #15
jcl
Rivet Master
 
Currently Looking...
Vancouver , British Columbia
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,950
For a 10,000 lb travel trailer, it is not worth looking at BEV pickups IMO. Better to focus on a single axle version of the Tesla Semi, with a low cab, or a longer range version of the Freightliner EM2.

BEV pickups will be targeted at commuters and tradespeople.
jcl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2021, 10:18 AM   #16
Stay CazuaL
 
cazual6's Avatar
 
2018 25' Flying Cloud
2014 19' Flying Cloud
Reseda , California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 875
Images: 1
On order for the Tri-Motor. If you want problems you'll find it. Finding short falls on anything is easy. It's like TV debate, pointless.

I can't wait to get mine.
cazual6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2021, 10:31 AM   #17
Rivet Master
 
Dennis C's Avatar
 
2020 23' International
Evergreen , Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 1,165
Iím a fan of electric vehicles. We own a fully electric Jaguar I-Pace, and itís a fantastic small SUV. That said, I think the technology needs to advance considerably before Iíd ever consider one for a tow vehicle. It just isnít practical yet. Hopefully it will get there in the next 5 - 10 years.
__________________
Dennis

2020 International Serenity 23 FB "Sparkle Plenty"
2018 GMC Denali 1500 Crew Cab 4x4
Airstream Club International #2805
Dennis C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2021, 10:38 AM   #18
SophieHaus
 
Sophiehaus's Avatar
 
2018 25' Flying Cloud
2007 25' International CCD FB
2006 23' Safari SE
Colorado Springs , Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 42
Images: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by TravelerJoe View Post
Was reading on Tesla website about their proposed 2022 tri-motor EV truck which with the tri-motor AWD model you might tow up to 14,000 lbs and travel over 500 miles per charge.

Nothing else on the market claims to provide that kind of performance.

Ambitious? Of course, but everyday there are new developments.

Would the proposed 2022+ Tesla Cybertruck be the ideal tow vehicle for the largest Airstream 30+ footer model?

https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/design#battery
The answer is no, at this time. Watch TFL car on YouTube. They have created extensive videos on the shortcomings of towing with an electric vehicle.
Sophiehaus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2021, 10:41 AM   #19
Rivet Master
 
banderabob's Avatar
 
2008 19' Bambi
2012 23' Flying Cloud
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Bandera , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 669
And if 50% of new vehicle production is to be electric by 2030 per automakers non-binding agreement this week, plan on hours-long waits at charging stations, even if millions of new stations can be built in the interim. The grid will not sustain this, and wind and solar simply wonít do the job. Not in my lifetime anyway.
banderabob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2021, 11:11 AM   #20
4 Rivet Member
 
greenflag's Avatar
 
2016 30' International
Quartz Hill , California
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 312
I am not familiar with Tesla's air conditioning and heating systems. How does running these systems change battery life? I think Tesla's mileage claims are based on a nice weather day on flat level ground. I wonder how it will do pulling hills where it must also overcome the forces of gravity trying to pull it backwards. I'll be curious to see a real world towing test.
I have always been a fan of hydrogen fuel cell technology. The only byproduct is water vapor.
greenflag is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Blue Ox SwayPro Weight Distribution w/ Sway Control - Clamp On - 10,000 lbs GTW, 1,000 lbs TW Argosy Heir Airstream Classifieds 0 03-14-2019 11:00 PM
Astradome - did I order the wrong one? jessejane Windows, Doors, Locks & Vents 9 08-30-2013 05:07 PM
Anyone towing 27FB (7,600 lbs / 770 lbs tongue) with a V8 or TDI Touareg ? Timofeevich Tow Vehicles 41 09-23-2011 05:55 PM
Anyone towing 5,000 lbs with a V8 BMW X5? adwriter73 Tow Vehicles 20 06-17-2010 01:14 AM
Diesel Chevy, Ford, Dodge, or GMC?! 10,000 lbs NomadKitchen Tow Vehicles 12 10-16-2009 09:01 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.